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Zeev Hed

08/29/03 1:54 PM

#146106 RE: basserdan #146104

Talking about misplaying a hand, look at NVEC now printing north of $37.... back in with tails between legs at $37.02...

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TJ Parker

08/29/03 2:26 PM

#146122 RE: basserdan #146104

The bullion banks, JPM, GS, BAC, MS and C, just to name some biggies, are reputed to be h e a v i l y short both gold futures and options and supposedly are very vulnerable to any tremors that may occur in the Au based derivatives if the PoG should break sharplly above current levels.

although i've heard this often, there are things that happen that make me question that sometimes. e.g. just recently a note from MS (i think) which advised clients to have a 5% position in gold in their portfolios. that could, of course, be a case of "the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing". but still, its the nature of derivatives players to offload all the risk to someone else. isn't it at least plausible that they've done this? (heck, even a sizeable hedge in the HUI could do that, one would think; and those guys are masterful at manipulating stock prices).
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schloss_1

08/29/03 2:38 PM

#146128 RE: basserdan #146104

Dan-
This is a direct quote from the WSJ on Thursday August 28, 2003, p. B9...

"...Trading got off to a brisk start as a number of bullion banks sought to bulldoze prices through the $368-$370 area...In recent days, speculative and bullion bank buying has persisted in keeping the metal within striking distance of that region--despite a bullish performance of late by the US dollar...The early bullion bank buying was designed to poke prices through the nearby resistance and activate preplaced buy orders lurking just beyond that would spark a flurry of automatic buying.The ploy worked within the first 15 minutes of trading, with December futures bursting from the $368.50 level to $373 within 2 minutes just after 8:30 a.m. Eastern time on a frenzy of fresh buying and short-covering--the buying of positions previously sold..."

Dan, I do not pretend to be an expert in who's buying and who's selling and why, but I would think if the WSJ is going to print such a story, they would have to be 95% sure that the information was true. Personally, I have never understood why any bank would want to be continuously short gold. Surely they have technical analysts who can sense that a bull market in the metal is materializing and covering any shorts would be a logical step toward that state of grace we call "solvency."

But then again, WTFDIK.

schloss