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jakedogman1

01/14/18 9:43 PM

#322614 RE: eastcoastguy #322613

Agree.... and remember the chronology from the Ronin letter, SK and crew wanted R&D over Avid and they had the inside scoop w/ MSK and others..

And they lost the battle late Nov and garnick was gone... so all the partner talks have turned into the IP is for sale...

The IP could sell for $50 mil and it could be $500 mil.... my guess it is going to take a couple of months for the process to finish...

The new guys are not here to run a pop stand.

keep_trying

01/15/18 11:28 AM

#322624 RE: eastcoastguy #322613

ECG, as I look at the shelf prep step, I consider how CDMO would spend the money. Some "needs"?:

1. Buy back of preferred shares. What sum is needed to do this? Payout at 10% is a strain on CDMO achieving positive cash flow. Otherwise, why buy back the shares?

2. Paying the bills until sales bring self sufficiency. Avid sales are projected to be down until new customers are found. How long can CDMO sell shares to prop up payroll to keep Avid production staff employed while awaiting the sales needed to keep Avid self sufficient?

3. Support Avid production capability while seeking new orders. If current Avid capacity of $100 million+ sales turns EBITDA of $33 million (a one third margin), assigning that 15 to 20 multiplier for shareholder valuation of $525 to $700 million. Figuring about 50 million shares, that is support for a $10 to $14 pps, which is a good reason for shareholders to support some carrying cost for production staff until sales can be realized. However, if it takes more than a year to fill the order docket, carrying costs need to be carefully monitored and staff size managed accordingly. Yet, which Pharma would give an order if production was not "ready to go" vs. the order must wait while Avid staffs up?

4. Build new Avid capacity. Lias suggested another $100 million in sales can be supported when the two 2000 liter reactors are added at the Myford facility, more as more capacity is added. Building a bridge to nowhere makes no sense, so customer order commitments need to be lined up to support the growth. Does capitalization need to be done to provide funding or are operational loans backed by the customer agreements a better path, shifting risk away from shareholders? At some point, increased sales need to fund expansions. Maybe the first expansion gets carried by shareholders, but after that, a growth reinvestment engine should be put in motion.

5. PPHM tech sale value. If CDMO is going to sell ATM shares, shareholder value growth from what the money gets spent on needs to occur to avoid simple dilution. Earlier posts tried to assign value to the PPHM tech, but current Avid sales don't appear to be delivering a positive cash flow relative to carrying costs for overheads and Avid production staff during periods of underutilized production. Obviously, a good Pharma deal for the tech solves the Avid cash needs without dilution if the ATM is practiced like Paul Lytle has shown can be done.

6. Role of Ronin Group, Dart etc. What is Ronin going to do to support the value of their investment during this CDMO transition in business plan to Avid mabufacturing growth? It seems they should act at least to head off abusive trading practices by supporting trading, when timely. I am not sure what that means, though. Will shorting into news that gets covered by ATM shares be all the help CDMO gets from its large shareholders? What will the owners % holdings look like (retail, hedge funds ??) if CDMO raises their $120 million at a cost basis of $4 pps, translating to the share count becoming 75 to 80 million (issue 30 million new shares)?

Best wishes and IMO.
KT

jakedogman1

01/15/18 12:28 PM

#322627 RE: eastcoastguy #322613

When postulating about potential IP value, it's helpful to look at the dynamics at play with former mgmt pre ronin and post ronin control of the BOD...

Pre ronin.... mgmt had no incentive nor desire to do a deal unless under their terms and the lower the share price got, the better for them.... and a deal would have forced the gravy train to end because no BP would tolerate that BS... no care about dilution nor interest in getting institutional ownership as evidenced by the complete blunder of the RS and russell moves... a major investor asked to discuss corp gov and was rebuffed by a BOD that thought they were invincible... anybody dealing w/ the former team can attest to the arrogance and malice they held to anyone asking for change.. the excess space that Avid has was there for potential bavi production and most likely the negotiating posture w/ BP was our way or no way... US rights etc... and it probably carried over to AVID as the next asset to sell w/ hopeful bavi production and then AVID sale... and they had the platinum parachutes designed and ready to go along with inflated pay to turbo charge those 3 year payouts...My guess is they underestimated the ronin threat... They thought they could pull it off... and as ronin threat got stronger, BP prob sensed a changing of the guard so why do a deal with the current team.. i think ronin had connections in terms of feedback from the BP side... like these guys are unrealistic etc.. just a guess because xencor had deals with several big players like novartis, merck, halozyme via CFO on xencor BOD.. he had potential channels..

Post ronin.... SK has 6 months from 12-22-17 to cash out his options at roughly $9 per share and was clipped big time w/ his platinum package reduced to bronze and the new team chomping at the bit for capital and a M&A plan at the ready imo..

The dynamics have surely changed and the macro environment prob has improved... we are getting closer...