Yep Lumber, I am pretty much with you. I wont totally abandoned the Conservative ideology but I will tell you that I am really dissatisfied with the republicans right now. That is not to say that I am turning towards the liberal agenda. And, as you probably have done, I had a serious conversation with myself about how I was going to approach the next election and may, for the first time in my life, vote for a democrat. It would have to be a center democrat but it could happen.