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01/03/18 10:38 PM

#276134 RE: fuagf #276133

As long as Israel establishes more settlements, they are clearly not going to be "negotiating" in good faith. Settlements are merely an expensive way to lay claim to territory and making it economically impossible to return the land to the Palestinians.

I have gotten very tired of the Israeli lobby (AIPAC) and its influence on the US's foreign policy. The sad thing is that both the Democrats and the Republican kow tow to them.

And, no, I am not anti-Semitic.
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fuagf

01/25/18 5:22 PM

#276695 RE: fuagf #276133

Forget the Ultimate Deal. The Mideast Needs the Status Quo.

"Israel’s Settlements Have No Legal Validity,
Constitute Flagrant Violation of International Law,
Security Council Reaffirms
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With many links.

Trump’s plan for Israeli-Palestinian peace is fanciful, dangerous, and not going anywhere.

By Shalom Lipner | January 23, 2018, 12:34 PM


President Donald Trump and Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu leave after delivering a speech
during a visit to the Israel Museum on May 23, 2017. (Lior Mizrahi/Getty Images)

“The status quo is unsustainable.” Anyone involved in the ritual of Middle East peace negotiations has heard this phrase countless times. Unless immediate action is taken to change prevailing realities, so goes the paradigm, some irreparable explosion is imminent.

The status quo is the bastard stepchild of diplomacy. Nobody joins the foreign service just to tread water. Diplomats aspire to make the world a better place; they dream of turning swords into ploughshares. Playing referee between intractable enemies and keeping things simmering at a low boil is an inglorious business indeed.

Statesmanship cannot thrive on an exclusive diet of activism, however. It requires no small degree of humility as well. Calls to move beyond the status quo are understandable. An equilibrium that leaves all parties dissatisfied, searching constantly for ways to maximize their own advantage, is inherently unstable. But any status quo needs to be handled with care, replaced only with an improved situation and not discarded simply for its own sake.

Sometimes, the status quo is the best available alternative. U.S. President Donald Trump says that he wants to broker the “ultimate deal” between Israelis and Palestinians. Efforts by previous administrations have revealed a similar calculus. Despite their intuitive knowledge that the United States “cannot want [a solution] more than the parties themselves,” American mediators have generally resorted to prodding Israelis and Palestinians toward an agreement. This bias toward engagement has exacted a price. Creating unrealistic expectations of a breakthrough when conditions are not conducive to progress is far from a cost-free exercise. Disappointment breeds intransigence and despair, making it even harder to bring the sides back to the table in the future.

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Creating unrealistic expectations of a breakthrough when conditions are not conducive to progress is far from a cost-free exercise.
Disappointment breeds intransigence and despair, making it even harder to bring the sides back to the table in the future.

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Trump has charged senior White House staff with the mission of brokering a settlement. Vice President Mike Pence is now shuttling between some of the Middle Eastern stakeholders. And Jason Greenblatt, Trump’s special representative for international negotiations, is back in the region conferring with Quartet envoys. But under present circumstances — with both sides already on edge about the contours of a supposedly imminent American peace plan — Trump’s goal is overly ambitious and even dangerous.

Addressing the PLO Central Council in Ramallah, on Jan. 14, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas lashed out at Israel, referring to the Jewish state as “a colonial project that has nothing to do with Jews.” His delusional words were conceivably motivated by recent American decisions to recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital and to freeze U.S. funding for the United Nations agency that aids Palestinian refugees. (He had some choice epithets for Trump too.) Either way, Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, made it clear that “there will not be peace” while Abbas clings to his rejection of Israel’s Jewish character.

Now that Abbas has pronounced the Oslo Accords dead, the Israeli-Palestinian theater is likely headed toward a meltdown.

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Now that Abbas has pronounced the Oslo Accords dead, the
Israeli-Palestinian theater is likely headed toward a meltdown.

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Governments in Ramallah and Jerusalem are blaming each other for the impasse and climbing into the trees, where they will wait petulantly for some incentive to justify their return to dialogue. In the interim, they’ll play a high-stakes game of chicken using the United States as a foil: Israel will appeal to the administration for greater latitude to create facts on the ground, while the Palestinians will cry betrayal and circle their wagons. In such an environment, the order of the day is containment — making sure that violence does not erupt and preserving the hope of constructive interaction once the atmosphere clears.

Even that limited objective will require heavy lifting. Israelis and Palestinians are nursing a litany of grievances, both historical and contemporary. And their leaders are focused elsewhere. The 82-year-old Abbas, just beginning his 14th year of a four-year term as president, seems more intent on reconciliation with Hamas-ruled Gaza as his legacy project. Righteously indignant about being double-crossed by America and his fellow Arabs, he has little cachet to talk with Israel anyway. Meanwhile, Netanyahu has just returned from a triumphant visit to India, where he had a 130-member economic delegation in tow. At home, his attention will once again be consumed by more mundane pursuits, including his legal troubles. Wall-to-wall condemnation of Abbas’s tirade among Israeli politicians guarantees that Netanyahu can ignore Palestinian wishes with virtually no political consequences.

On the upside, Israel has just consented to the introduction of high-speed mobile service in the West Bank. While perhaps not a great step forward for mankind, modest achievements like this do contribute to quality of life. The United States should encourage these steps. Over time, they infuse a sense of normality and restore confidence that real progress will — in the right time — be possible. Maybe not with current management, but with the help of visionaries who can see beyond the zero-sum mentality of the present moment.

Last week in Cairo, Abbas warned that Jerusalem is “the gate of peace and war.” And after telling the Knesset that Trump has “done more to bring our two great countries closer together than any president in the past 70 years,” Pence risks unleashing the more adventurous impulses of some Israelis. Everybody needs a timeout.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/01/23/forget-the-ultimate-deal-israel-needs-the-status-quo/
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fuagf

01/25/18 6:22 PM

#276696 RE: fuagf #276133

Apartheid, Settler Colonialism and the Palestinian State 50 Years On

"Israel’s Settlements Have No Legal Validity,
Constitute Flagrant Violation of International Law,
Security Council Reaffirms
"

With the Palestinians facing a belligerent occupation, an apartheid system that favors Jewish settlers and
a growing settler colonial project, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is becoming chronic, an ongoing Nakba.

by Walid Salem

Vol.22 No.2 & 3, 2017 / Time For Justice And Peace - End the Occupation

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The Situation of an Ongoing Nakba

After 50 years of the Israeli occupation of the Palestinian territories of the West Bank, East Jerusalem and the Gaza Strip, the situation on the ground cannot be described as being any less than catastrophic for the Palestinians. This is a situation that can reasonably be described as a continuation of the 1948 Nakba.

The aspects and ramifications of this ongoing Nakba can be seen everywhere:

First, the Palestinians in East Jerusalem are losing their residency rights, facing house and land confiscations and also house demolitions.

Second, the 2 million Palestinians in Gaza live under constant attacks, imprisoned in their tiny 360 km2 strip, which they cannot use at all, representing one of the most densely populated areas in the world.

Third, in the West Bank, Area Ci Bedouins and farmers are subjected to ongoing processes of evacuation, land confiscations, settlement expansion and settler attacks. They are prevented from cultivating their land and from free movement.

Fourth, the Palestinians in Hebron are subjected to daily settler attacks and the division of their city into Hebronii 1, administered by the Palestinian Authority (PA), and Hebron 2, administered by the Israeli Authority.

Fifth, the Palestinians in Area A and Biii are being subjected to Israeli Army “hot incursions,” which occur at the discretion of the Israeli army to arrest, to assassinate Palestinian political activists or to demolish their houses.

Sixth, and finally, the plight of the Palestinian refugees continues almost 70 years after 1948 and 50 years after the displacement of persons in 1967.

In brief, an Israeli one-state solution in all the historical land of Palestine is in the making, while the Palestinians are facing a growing ignorance of their right to self-determination in an independent state on the 1967 borders. The PLO has accepted this compromise in 1988, a two-state solution to live side-by-side in peace and security with Israel. However, Israel is no longer interested in the two-state solution.

Continued: http://www.pij.org/details.php?id=1786

It reads a pretty fair historical snapshot evidenced by the 'settler maps' reproduced here



again from the post this sits in reply to.