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joev2

12/21/17 7:45 AM

#90551 RE: Sunnybank #90549

"...but a lot of it was indeed real. You just can't get past the perceived deception."

You're very close! Just omit the word "perceived" and I think you're onto something. Those of us who were here before many of you, know the deception wasn't perceived. Our pockets are our evidence. But even without that, Bob lied time and time again, whether in writing or in person. In fact, the deception was so great, many refused to believe anything "indeed real" could ever happen with this company and so refused (or ignored) any evidence that may have been to the contrary.

I guess some views from both sides will never change. Personally, I do believe there was a semblance of a "real" business beginning to start up, but Bob couldn't help but get in the way (perceived or otherwise). Unlike some who blame everybody from the imaginary Murphy to the diabolical schemes of a "perceived" enemy of a government, shady business partners, sec, etc etc, I do believe Bob was his own worst enemy in getting this off the ground. Come to think of it, what has he actually accomplished business wise?

surebob

12/21/17 9:31 AM

#90552 RE: Sunnybank #90549

Bao MAY have been interested in the mine when iron ore was 180 dollars a ton. Now that high grade is 70 and may go back down to 50 in future years, nobody will be interested in Mexico's low grade stuff with high sulphur

China is trying to clean up their pollution and low grade ore is not wanted any more in China ( see prices: 40 delivered and still no takers ). Do you think Bao is interested in losing money on each tonne delivered?