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joenatural

12/13/17 4:50 PM

#126069 RE: RealDutch #126065

They ? The question should be, "Will people that buy the stock ever learn ?" People keep pouring their money into this total SCAM Chinese company while they dump day after day, month after month. I can only think that Solomon thinks that foreigners are the dumbest people that walk the planet .....

"This reeks like a scam and the thing I keep wondering about is, will they ever learn?"

LOONG

12/13/17 5:04 PM

#126070 RE: RealDutch #126065

Here´s my take of what´s happened and happening..
I still belive FD working hard behind the scenes, however I´m quite certain that he´s a smart guy. Remeber that S and ECAB ended up decresing the convertible bond, well If I have been in FD shoes, I would after that started to hedge my pos. I think he have been shorting, even naked the share for some time.., Ive would. ECAB have 10,5% interest on the the remaining bond and some free capital that needs to be in work. Yes, I agree that Dan and S shouldn´t be runing the financials..S is a master of runing the business (of course bad things happen day to day), but shareholder communications is on the lowest level.
Why do think they increased the shares to 50M recently? They need it further on , but not to aquire, they might need it to close the loan to TRW. We have been in Siaf for nearly 6 years and have had already from start, a 10 year horizon, so in my opinion there´s a lot of positive operational pieces that have been in the right direction.
But the communication have worked contra" I still belive we will come out of the tunnel within my horizon, but I don´t think we will have any dividend the coming years. Perhaps they will do the buyback, but maybe the have some better to do if they get some money? We have increased yearly and have soon a quite sub.pos of 500K shares. But I don´t count on a major change in the shareprice the coming 2 years. The ECAB bond date will be a interesting date..

nefariouswu

12/13/17 7:46 PM

#126077 RE: RealDutch #126065

Dutch I want to be clear I understand you since you have been a big supporter of these guys:

Are you saying this is a criminal enterprise? I know Joe Natural says it is.