Thats the words i was searching for...forward looking reports..we will see...the chinese do not think like us...they just dont beliefs systems are tottally different...they might even feel that its ..oh hell...an insult to have to speak of things that are not yet...im tottally serious...so if we have to wait on only the quarterlys thats ok...i do know ...yes KNOW... that they feel our need for instant gratification is childish and a thing to be avoided ..jmo thats all...