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11/04/17 2:38 PM

#276170 RE: WeeZuhl #276169

Great post WeeZuhl. I needed that. and I agree, although I would not have been able to summarize my thoughts as succinctly as you did.

Gman24

11/04/17 3:17 PM

#276172 RE: WeeZuhl #276169

Thank you for your insight as always.. I was waiting for this post for awhile.. Could not agree more but we all don’t have the same credibility as you. Thanks again GLTY

dr_lowenstein

11/04/17 4:51 PM

#276173 RE: WeeZuhl #276169

intangible assets? what intangible assets? Let talk about tangible assets such as the handful of patents they have that barely squeaked thru the uspto. The technology embedded in those patents is decades old and the inventor is no long with the company having been booted out rather unceremoniously. (great move, that LOL ). Let me ask this, in the category of tangible assets, who is the formulator of products at this point. Surely if this miracle technology is being moved forward then we must have the very best formulators on staff, so who are they????

Dr PeteRose MLB

11/04/17 11:29 PM

#276184 RE: WeeZuhl #276169

WeeZuhl
Great words of wisdom. Hearing you lay it out like you did reassures me I've made the right decision. I hold a large stake here and have said on different occasions that I had reached my goal for the number of shares I own and I have always added. Im coming up on another milestone as far as number of shares I hold and after this one I am done. With mine, my grandkids education acct, my 2 kids, my brother and brother in laws shares, we have a rather large position and we all are waiting.

Dubster watching

11/05/17 3:12 AM

#276185 RE: WeeZuhl #276169

Ok I was thinking of buying n ore anyway,

I also own a bit as do friends and family,

namtae

11/05/17 9:37 AM

#276189 RE: WeeZuhl #276169

Let's see, regardless of the already accrued and continued massive losses to come, hold on so there's no loss of interest in the MB... ok, got it.


I implore you not to sell your shares, if for no other reason than I fear you would lose interest in our board and deprive us of your always anticipated insights.



Dante Fantasia

11/05/17 6:39 PM

#276202 RE: WeeZuhl #276169

Thank you very much for the kind post, WeeZuhl! I am very complimented at the nice words, and indeed find your post valuable as food-for-thought.

Honestly, I'm surprised I even read this board on a weekend, as have become disengaged...but perhaps less so with the recent weakness, beyond its usual weakness, lol. You make some very good points, and to me, one of the more frustrating things has been the lost opportunity cost this investment money could have made even just sitting in a fund. The market has been smoking. That said, most of my money that's invested is in funds/ETF's, or simply in cash. I really have little trust in this market right now as a whole. This is my "speculative" play.

But, therein lies the problem...this has turned from a "play" on Sequestox into a long-term investment in a generic company. Actually, and quite appros given your Dali Lama quote, has been almost a Zen-mindset I have taken towards this stock: I have written it off as a total loss in my mind. As much as possible, anyway. Sure, like most, at a loss here, and while set aside, does not tickle to be down. To me, it seems too little to sell, but can buy twice the fun if it falls to .04...so really, at what point does it gain any traction as a real investment?

I fully agree--that in spite of my criticisms of Nasrat, the company has a good deal of potential. But it's a question of when such potential becomes realized, and what opportunities I miss while hanging on? Yes, I believe the warning letter is temporary and will be cleared up. When--no idea--IMO, shouldn't have occurred in the first place. But given it did, and Nasrat did not mention, he evidently treated like a non-material event, to which extent, he can be elusive on any updates. So we hold...then hold again while the ANDA's go through the approval process, then if approved, the marketing to shelf to revenue process...and all of that takes a good deal of time. One can say "be patient" but after holding nearly four years, and being down over 50%, my patience is wearing thin.

Yes, there are wild cards. An approval in another country. Big deal or move with SunGen comes through. Some forward movement on Sequestox. The warning resolved and a fast ANDA sliding into play. Yes--all could happen and is what keeps me from selling to pursue less risky/less reward standard plays at this level..I guess the idea of "speculative." But with dilution, it's also easy to get suckered into thinking of the sp as "cheap." No different from the old adage/question "which weighs more--a ton of feathers or a ton of bricks?" Nasrat has funded the ANDA's in a way that turned shareholder's bricks into feathers...it's the market cap one has to look at for real valuation, and assess if this is worth it. On one hand, even great news resulting in a 50% upswing is far better than one would hope for in say a blue-chip investment, but on the downside, that would simply put us back at .12...yet, a 50% move would be easier to realize here than say on a BP like PFE announcing some good results.

I'll admit, I'm unsure of which way I lean right now. Nasrat has mismanaged, IMO, and may continue to do so, as opposed to effectively turning this company around. But, no guarantee anything else I may buy in place of ELTP that will not go down as well. We are not going bk, so "going to zero" does not seem likely--but so does "DollarLand" given the ongoing dilution to fund ANDA's that then sit in a queue. Honestly, I will be very pissed if not sell outright if this CC shows Nasrat has engaged in significant dilution at this level of sp to keep the ANDA machine cranking with no resolution of the warning in hand.

Well, that's about the sum of energy I have this weekend. Surprised I even checked the board, but glad I saw your post and able to respond. I thank you for the friendship and respect your views...certainly some things to think about--I'm not in a rush...but am frustrated by red every morning, and no forward movement by management. The next CC will be interesting--or worse if it's just more platitudes and no advancement. IMO, it's time Nasrat produces results, not just pictures of a rosy future. I guess my own move right now is to just hang on--if it goes to a nickel, so be it, or a dime, better than .08.

Once again, I appreciate the kind words and thoughts...and equally, the very thoughtful reply. And, always, a friend, albeit in ELTP, an expensive one! My best to you--

Maz