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02/22/19 7:43 AM

#302082 RE: BOREALIS #274522

Why Trump is lowering expectations for next week’s Kim Jong Un summit

"Return of the Criminal Presidency
October 30, 2017
American History, Current Events, Politics
We are perhaps on the verge of witnessing, for the third time in 100 years, a U.S.
presidency so corrupt that multiple high ranking members will be imprisoned.

[...]
None of this has anything to do with the fact that presidential candidate Richard Nixon committed treason in 1968 [ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2014/08/12/george-will-confirms-nixons-vietnam-treason ] when he sabotaged Vietnam War peace talks by independently negotiating with foreign agents (leaders of South Vietnam); he begged them NOT to go along with the peace treaty negotiated by outgoing president Lyndon Johnson and the North, because he would offer them better terms.
In retrospect, the impeachment and removal he dodged by resigning were too good for him. He probably should’ve been imprisoned.
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Maybe — finally — Trump is getting North Korea negotiations right.

By Alex Ward@AlexWardVoxalex.ward@vox.com Feb 20, 2019, 4:30pm EST


A signboard welcomes the upcoming summit between President Donald Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un at a
South Korean restaurant on February 20, 2019, in Hanoi, Vietnam. Linh Pham/Getty Images

.. with all links ..

President Donald Trump is just one week away from one of the most important moments of his presidency — and he’s trying to lower expectations in advance.

Trump plans to meet North Korean leader Kim Jong Un in Vietnam at the end of February for their second summit. Trump’s main goal, as it was when they met for the first time in Singapore last June, is to strike a deal to dismantle North Korea’s nuclear program.

That’s easier said than done. After months of talks, both sides are at an impasse: The US has demanded that North Korea offer a full, detailed list of its nuclear inventory before it lifts sanctions, while North Korea says the sanctions should be lifted before it provides the full list and seriously begins to downgrade its nuclear capabilities.

It’s no wonder, then, that Trump has used nearly every public opportunity to try to lower mounting pressure ahead of the historic meeting.

Let’s start with the first instance. On Tuesday, Trump told reporters in the Oval Office in response to a question about North Korea, “We’re in no rush whatsoever. ... As long as there’s no testing, I’m in no rush. If there’s testing, that’s another deal.” It’s a comment he’s made before, but it carries more weight now that he mentioned it again before the February 27 meeting.

Trump often points to the fact that Pyongyang hasn’t detonated a nuclear device since September 2017 or tested a missile since November of that year, but it’s not the full story. About three years have passed between North Korea’s first and second nuclear tests, and about four years between its second and third. It has completed six tests in total, only one of which took place during the Trump administration. There have also been years-long gaps between North Korea’s missile tests, which began in the 1980s.

So the current lull is nothing new, and North Korea has used the break to continue improving its nuclear arsenal .. https://www.vox.com/world/2018/11/12/18087516/north-korea-missile-report-trump-csis-base-seoul .. that threatens regional allies and American territory.

“This only reinforces the perception among some that Trump either doesn’t understand the threat or is cynically approaching the North Korea issue from a political rather than security perspective,” Frank Aum, a North Korea expert at the US Institute of Peace in Washington, told me.

And on Wednesday, Trump told reporters in the Oval Office that the Hanoi summit likely won’t be the last time he meets with Kim. In other words, don’t expect a massive deal to end North Korea’s nuclear program next week. Trump did add that he believed Pyongyang would eventually dismantle its nuclear arsenal, however.

“Trump is trying to create negotiating leverage before Hanoi by creating the impression that he is not desperate to achieve North Korea’s denuclearization,” says Aum.

Put together, Trump is letting the world — and mainly Kim — know that next week’s meeting isn’t the last chance to sign a huge accord. If anything, it seems like the president has resigned himself to long and arduous negotiations with Pyongyang.

And that, actually, may be good news.

Is Trump getting North Korea negotiations right?

Bridget Coggins, a North Korea expert at the University of California Santa Barbara, told me that “quick denuclearization is impractical.”

There’s one major reason why: Kim believes that having a credible nuclear program will help his regime survive, mainly by deterring an invasion from the United States. He therefore currently has no incentive to give up his arsenal and open himself up to attack. (And even if he did say he’d give up his weapons all at once, it would take years .. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-usa-nuclear-study/north-korea-may-have-made-more-nuclear-bombs-but-threat-reduced-study-idUSKCN1Q10EL .. for international inspectors to verify that.)

The way North Korea wants to proceed, then, is via a step-by-step process. In Singapore, Trump and Kim actually agreed to a four-part plan .. https://www.vox.com/2018/6/12/17452532/trump-kim-document-agreement-full-text-denuclearization-read . (The reference to “DPRK” below is an acronym for North Korea’s official name, the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea):

1. The United States and the DPRK commit to establish new US-DPRK relations in accordance with the desire of the peoples of the two countries for peace and prosperity.

2. The United States and the DPRK will join their efforts to build a lasting and stable peace regime on the Korean Peninsula.

3. Reaffirming the April 27, 2018 Panmunjom Declaration, the DPRK commits to work toward complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.

4. The United States and the DPRK commit to recovering POW/MIA remains, including the immediate repatriation of those already identified.

Note that “denuclearization” doesn’t come until the third step. The first two are really about improving ties between the US, North Korea, and South Korea as well. There is also major disagreement about what “denuclearization” means — for the US, it’s that Pyongyang ends its nuclear program; for North Korea, it’s that Washington stops protecting South Korea. It does so by stationing thousands of troops in the country and being willing to fight a nuclear war to help it, if needed.

It’s possible that what Trump is trying to signal — albeit poorly — is that as long as North Korea doesn’t test any more weapons, the US will commit to working through the four-step plan. The next meeting may really be about relationship building, then, not ending nuclear programs.

“There isn’t trust between the two governments and they’re working to change the relationship,” says Coggins. However, “the pressure for real substantive progress is there too.”

https://www.vox.com/2019/2/20/18233621/north-korea-kim-jong-un-trump-summit-vietnam
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12/08/20 7:05 PM

#360195 RE: BOREALIS #274522

Individual-1. As Trump Mulls Self-Pardon, Legal Headaches Mount After WH | The Beat With Ari Melber | MSNBC

"Return of the Criminal Presidency
October 30, 2017
American History, Current Events, Politics
We are perhaps on the verge of witnessing, for the third time in 100 years, a U.S. presidency so corrupt that multiple high ranking members will be imprisoned.
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736,893 views •Dec 8, 2020

MSNBC

President Trump is mulling an unprecedented self-pardon, raising questions about what federal crime he would pardon himself for. MSNBC’s Chief Legal Correspondent Ari Melber reports on Trump's potential legal exposure after leaving office, emphasizing that the rule of law requires any consideration of an ex-President's exposure focus on the evidence, not one's views of the ex-President or his policies. Melber reports on a specific convicted crime that Trump was allegedly involved in, reporting on both sides of any potential case regarding that offense. This is an excerpt from a longer special report. (This interview is from MSNBC’s “The Beat with Ari Melber, a news show covering politics, law and culture airing nightly at 6pm ET on MSNBC. http://www.thebeatwithari.com). Aired on 12/7/2020.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1q7LF_iM8c

A general consensus seems to be Trump could not successfully pardon himself. Many no doubt would say he could.

Knowing Trump, lol, well, it would be another he could test in court, eh. Guessing odds are he'll try it.

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