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munhoi

10/18/17 8:34 AM

#24746 RE: munhoi #24743

the balance sheet of BOX is 50 times better then Paragon right now


they have NO bank or other major debt liabilities except paying the CEO and COO and finance accountant ( what they do for Box now for the money they are paid - close to nothing in my view) and only the unpaid cumulative preferred dividends and that $2.7 million unpaid Allseas receivable that the CEO owes Box ships

the only thing standing in the way of rebuilding Box is the Greed of the CEO IMHO and not returning those last two 2010 built ships that Allseas " stole " back to BOX which were running full ships the last time I checked
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ivfk

10/18/17 12:47 PM

#24775 RE: munhoi #24743

Here is a recent press release from Allseas Marine:

http://www.tradewindsnews.com/drycargo/1323103/bodouroglous-allseas-shrinks-fleet-further

According to this press release, Allseas Marine sold 3 ex Box Ship assets for 42.8 Million

1) Maule for 20 Million
2) Box Voyager for 11.4 Million
3) Box Trader for 11.4

What I like to understand is the following: All three ships used to be on Box Ship's Balance sheet but the original loan for all 3 ships was over 100 Million dollars. At the end of 2015 the outstanding loan for the 3 ships was $60.5 Million. I understand that the debt was wiped out on all 3 ships were transferred off the balance sheet . It looks like Allseas must have taken over the asset, but what happened to the liability? Did Allseas sell these ship to pay off the liability to the lender? Or did Allseas actually profit $42.8 Million in this transaction? Also, what about Forgiveness of Debt taxes? Does Box ship owe taxes on the forgiven debt? In the US you would.



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carusso

10/18/17 4:25 PM

#24805 RE: munhoi #24743

BOX Trader may be the other ship. Both sold for over $11 million according to the article another member shared.