According to the two sites I just looked at DK owns 100,000 shares at an cost between $.14 and $.35. If that's true I have more money in Invested in Torvec than he does . Probably true of a lot of us. However I haven't loaned them any money but I think he has. Feel free to correct me. I'm probably wrong. I looked at Insidercow and insidermonkey. Don't ask me where they get the names from. Taking a break. Nothing is going to happen IMO anytime soon. Going vacation, landsharks, golf, beaches and grouper sandwiches. Life isn't good EOM it's great.