Andy thanks. I respect your opinions. In many cases they are different to mine. I know you are fair dinkum and have an excellent grasp of TA (something I know nothing about)I like it when you nominate targets for moving day averages etc. I am a mathematician, so I like to read what you say. Your concern is very much for the short term and trying to be scientific about what you say. I don't like when you attribute 'lies' to various situations. I must however agree with you that LOOK is a very manipuated stock. In the past month I have adopted the following strategy: (1) Mantain a significant holding in LOOK...over a million (2) Establish a 'trading' holding to profit from the ups and downs while the basic trend is UP I hope (3) Post Q1 report is when I started this holding of a ferw hundred shares (4) Since then I have turned that holding over twice at very nice profit. I work full time in a very satisfying job and don't have the time for trading GOOD LUCK TO ALL Your posts and others make this board great.