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ks1977

10/11/17 6:25 AM

#121044 RE: Mark-J #121040

Mark; Careful, you might be standing on quick-sand :-)

I don't think anyone on this board would disagree with you that there is an issue with the quality of the management, and I can respect people's decision to not invest based on that. However, I can't respect factual errors and claims that SIAF is a scam - there's a HUGE difference between a lack of quality of management and the company being a scam...

If you will not invest in SIAF unless you've seen the facilities with your own eyes that's fine as well, but making assumptions that it's a scam - while at the same time disregarding the eye-witnesses that HAS been there - seems strange... If you don't know what they have observered, then you might ask them :-) Or watch hyperboy's youtube-videos ;-) Some of them might even be on the videos on SIAFs homepage.

"Professionals"? Erm... You might want to google those names before you use quotation-marks... And it is NOT obvious that they have bad judgement - these are investors and not traders. Does everyone buying BEFORE the bottom have bad judgement?

I bought shares in the stock market late 2008, after a really heavy decline. After that decline, my stocks went a lot lower - was my decision to buy a bad judgement in your book? Well, I were happy with my 100% gain in 1.5 years (and 200% in 2.5 years). If that's your opinion of bad judgement, then so be it. In my book it is - at worst - bad timing (although trying to time the market can be not only tricky, but "dangerous" as well). However, we're not discussing timing here, are we? (that can be quite an interesting discussion btw)

The reality is the exact opposite? Ah, good, I don't have a lot of knowledge about asian banks DD from a carve-out company. Please educate me how this works and the expected timeframe, so that I too can see the fact that TRW will not get any MORE loans. Yes, MORE loans; TRW actually HAS gotten a loan... From one of the largest banks in the world. You know, the bank that has paid for the D&B-report. I guess ABC are "professionals" as well?

Also keep in mind that the decline of PPS in SIAF is "new", it hasn't always been like that - just like the stock market in 2008. In 2008 everyone sort of acted like every single company were going bankrupt. If one were to use your argument back then, then the declining PPS would prove that the companies were going bankrupt (or that all were scams). A declining PPS doesn't prove anything other than that the market expects the PPS to not increase in the short-term. So traders might be ware, but why should investors stay away?