I don't see it the same way.... I own 160m shares of IBRC and Ogburn came on board when it was at $.0001 and it skyrocketed to $.0063 at it's peak. I was able to sell a good deal for a tidy profit. This would not have happened without him.
Now Dreamlife is running the show at IBRC (soon to be DMLF) and they have a promising future; also thanks for Ogburn.