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aidytrader

06/20/17 12:37 AM

#30601 RE: Osullman #30600

It has barely ever happened, basically if we go grey kiss your money goodbye. I still think we have a chance as fusilier is no longer CEO so would be pointless punishing shareholders when he is no longer there. They should retire his shares and compensate for the price they were when we inherited them. If this is still suspended tomorrow we have a chance. If it's grey bye bye money

eddy2

06/20/17 11:15 AM

#30606 RE: Osullman #30600

To much leverage. Leverage can go two ways be it borrowing " good credit " because the company controls the purse strings or the offering of credit to others in need in the form of collateral.

The lending is known as bad liability because your not in control. As it has been said you can't get blood from a stone if there isn't any blood to be had. Sure you get second spoils after the parent lender gets your chunk of the collateral you put up. You have to remember that now you the one who put up the collateral has too put up the sales and administration costs to resolve the debt owed cause you put up the collateral.


Now it's true the collateral cost is higher then your cost of capital. Again the risk is much greater. I my self like the leasing to own business model once the leaser controls more then 51% of what ever it is your selling.


Equity to outstanding shares remembering that treasury stock is a portion of the lease hold paid for but not yet handed over to the leaser due too administration and sales costs yet to be amortized back to the lease.