I know its getting late for you... its even late for me so I'll catch you in the am... * What is your lines in the sand are to hold long? * if it doesn't clear... * if it does clear... * if it breaks under... out I've been shaken out of great longs on light volume. I know you watch volume. * wondering what time frame tells the tell of make break for you I never know when someone is going to dump 1000 contracts short/or/long to move it. 1000 contracts happens in an instant with /ng and the trend is made or broke. Stop hunting... stops don't seem to work in a trend... better off taking the gains of the immediate trend than getting stopped out and then watch it run. What makes you leave your trade long... conviction? ... thanks