Is what we have here with ICLD is a real company!!! Know with that said most otc that claim to be a company have huge A/S and O/S talking like 1 to 2 billion ICLD has 500 million which is not small but this is a real company with revenue, this company is also working hard to get their debt paid down or off, This company has new contracts coming in all the time. They have a 10k out and 2 8k's. ICLD will grow it just might take some time. IMO and experience this is a true long investment.