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Havoc23

03/22/17 12:10 PM

#34339 RE: newflow #34336

This alone is bigger than most people realize haha WAY bigger imo
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TheHungryHippo

03/22/17 12:19 PM

#34342 RE: newflow #34336

WOWWWW NICE UPDATE!!!!
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Havoc23

03/22/17 12:19 PM

#34343 RE: newflow #34336

MODS can we sticky this?
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Dr Martin VanNostrand

03/22/17 12:20 PM

#34344 RE: newflow #34336

Yes!!!
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ClearlyStocks

03/22/17 12:21 PM

#34346 RE: newflow #34336

PHASE-II COMPLETED Adipose Cells for Degenerative Disc Disease
This study has been completed.

Just competed this month!!! This alone is worth a ton of $$$
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MyzStreet

03/22/17 12:22 PM

#34348 RE: newflow #34336

Weeeee yay!
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Karma11

03/22/17 12:31 PM

#34355 RE: newflow #34336

Wow.. It's great NEWS. USRM is going to shock several .. Dollars range very soon
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Dragon Lady

03/22/17 12:32 PM

#34357 RE: newflow #34336

Quote LOL, "PHASE-II COMPLETED Adipose Cells for Degenerative Disc Disease "

And a big whoop-tee doo?

1) It's OPEN LABEL, NON RANDOMIZED. That's as "weak" a study as one can conduct. Close to meaningless in its statistical results, as there's no placebo control arm, and a strong placebo effect is pretty much guaranteed as everyone knows what they got, aka OPEN LABEL.

2) TOTAL OF 15, FIFTEEN lousy people treated. Micro sized.

3) It appears that all "evaluation criteria" are very subjective and weak IMO. "visual analog scale" etc. Meaning NO MRI's, functional MRI's, CT or other scans to determine actual "re-growth" of the damaged area, etc. Just subjective patient questioning is all they seem to indicate as their "end point" criteria, as far as I read that trial description. WEAK AGAIN to me.


That size trial, having no control arm, for a non life threatening condition that has about 100 known, and generally accepted "STANDARDS OF CARE", from simple physical therapy, to chiropractic/massage, to anything from stretching and strength training to yoga, to dozens of drug based mgt methods, to surgery of all various kinds, to combo therapy plans comprising any and/or subsets of all of thee above, etc.

IMO, makes it pretty much a NON EVENT as far as I can tell.

What are they gonna be able to prove with a micro sized sample and NO BLINDED CONTROL ARM? NOT MUCH, LOL !! The statistical "powering" of the study based on the micro sample size coupled with no control arm, is for all intents and purposes non existent.


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SMResources

03/22/17 1:01 PM

#34372 RE: newflow #34336

WOW and that looks due for FDA approval too