I wasn't I was trying to understand what torte or tothe guy was saying about deadcat and stuff and saying he posted it on breakout board yada yada. I was just trying to understand his perspective that's all. Like I said before I don't think it's wise to be totally bias. Even it things are mostly what they appear to be I like to keep an eye out for the other. That basically it. Do you know what the guy was getting at?