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charlie T colton

02/12/17 11:11 PM

#5670 RE: flying_trader #5669

RE:I don't know why ARNC didn't bid

Like the every other possible candidate, Alcoa didn't have the money to make a competitive bid against GE. The Alcoa split didn't happen until November (Alcoa Rises, Arconic Slips in Market Debut - Nov. 1, 2016).

Alcoa had $632 million in cash and credit of $1,500 million. $2,132 million is a lot of money but they didn't have a fart's chance in a hurricane against GE.

The supporting reference links are all in the post identified. From an earlier post (RE:initial conventional "take-over bid", "blockers" and possible counter bids. - 09/16/16.:


Feel free to suggest alternate financing options that I know will be available but I'm thinking that there won't be time to secure alternate financing AND work a successful counter bid against GE in the time available. I'm saying that cash is king.

OK. Lets look at some of the expected/suspected potential bidders.
Rolls-Royce (page 27) Cash and cash equivalents 30 June 2016 --- £ 2,287,000,000.
Honeywell Cash and cash equivalents 2016 Q2 --- $5,045,000,000 US.
UTC (Pratt & Whitney) (page 34) Cash and cash equivalents 2015 --- $7,075,000,000 US.
Lockheed Martin (page 2) Cash and Cash Equivalents 2015 --- $1,090,000,000 US.
Raytheon (page 28) Cash and cash equivalents 2015 --- $2,328,000,000 US.
GKN (page 19) Cash and cash equivalents June 2016 --- £ 227,000,000.
Boeing (page 4) Cash and cash equivalents June 2016 --- $8,605,000,000 US.
Airbus (page 9) Cash and cash equivalents June 2016 --- € 7,965,000,000.

It appears that Airbus has the largest amount of cash on hand. What are the chances of them getting full corporate approval to spend 17% of their war chest and having all the financial items in order in a month to make a bid for Arcam. And be prepared to raise the stakes, if necessary. I'm not at all surprised that we haven't heard a counter bid yet.

For the record...
General Electric (page 7) Cash and marketable securities June 2016 --- $91,800,000,000 US.




Rolls-Royce, Honeywell, UTC (Pratt & Whitney), Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, GKN, Boeing, and Alcoa combined had about half the cash that GE had available.

The Alcoa Investor Presentation on October 6, 2016






There was no conference call. None was announced. It's a departure from the transparency with which we were accustomed. It's not legally required in Sweden. I haven't seen any information about any specifics of any of the 4th quarter sales.


The About Arcam page disappeared for several days during the offer but reappeared with no changes as far as I can tell.

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