Johnebsr, yes, still have those old dividend shares, not worth the money to convert them and they stare at me each day to remind me of what kind of an operation Trina has been running for years and years. Do not listen just to me, just look at this guys record from company to company, for the shareholder's it has been, invest in and go broke. The motto here should have been, " Empty Pockets ". MIOO