If you listen to the other interviews, Rufus talks about how much money people have in bonds, billions, in these large bonds, and they want to use them for investing. This is a complicated way to make a lot of money. The people who are posting the bonds into CVSU will probably be receiving stock in CVSU, stock in the JV's as well as backing rights from the bond as well, meaning that, it is a collateralized arrangement, there will probably be a time, when the owners of the bond will no longer have that collateral because the stock will be worth so much and the bonds will be liquidated or, I don't know, these securitization deals are very complicated, do you know how complicated finance has become? Asset-backed securitization is the most popular way of financing now a days, it's the new trend on Wall-Street, it's what I've been saying all along, these guys are smart, and this stock will probably be worth a lot of money