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linhdtu

10/17/16 10:42 AM

#205287 RE: iwfal #205281

After reading the voter guide analysis for prop 61 I must say I have to agree with you on point #2.

Nevertheless I still intend to vote for it. Count me in as a sort of chump for trump type equivalent for healthcare cost. Irregardless of facts, my vote is my expression of anger at the system in this case. lol
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linhdtu

10/17/16 10:59 AM

#205290 RE: iwfal #205281

The middlemen are the parasites sucking the life of the system then.The insurance industry and the concentration/merger of providers is most if not all of the sand in the gear of Obamacare.
I despair if ever a small degree of free mkt competition will ever return to the US system.
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Physician frustrations grow in changing health care environment

After a patient’s pelvic exam Pap test results came back abnormal last January, the next step medically called for a procedure to determine whether the abnormal cells indicated a treatable infection — the most likely possibility — or something more serious, including a developing cervical cancer.

Ten months later, gynecologist David Deitrick said his patient is still deciding what to do.

The problem is the patient’s insurer, one of the national carriers in the Pittsburgh market, says her plan does not cover the procedure if it’s done at an outpatient surgical center.

She could have it done at Jefferson Hospital in Jefferson Hills, where Dr. Deitrick sees patients, but then her bill would be hundreds of dollars more, including facility fees and other hospital-related costs
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http://www.post-gazette.com/business/healthcare-business/2016/10/17/Physician-frustrations-grow-in-changing-health-care-environment/stories/201610160081
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ghmm

10/17/16 4:01 PM

#205298 RE: iwfal #205281

I don't have any hard numbers so can't quantify it. It seems to me the ratio of administrative people to physicians/pa has increased substantially in the past decade or two also there are more people in general involved in patient care then in the past (between nurses, aids, specialists, assistants, etc.). I would be curious if anyone has seen hard numbers.