5 hours doing DD, About 3 hours of that reading filings and quarterlies. I read most of it, you do realize how long they are right? Anyway the other 2 hours were trying to find the SS and short reports, etc. it's very upsetting that you imply I'm a pumper for having a OTC volume scanner and reading past filings and short reports, I do not get your anger/hostility. I'm here for the setup I see occurring in the volume alone. $VELA