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THESURF2014

09/29/16 9:29 AM

#10105 RE: rsh #10103

I agree. What the cost of manufacturing will be a major determinent for investors. Solar3D now sun works harped about a 3D solar cell that collected light from all angles but many long term investors in that tech believed it never came to be due to the high cost of manufacturing not to mention that they failed to get their patent approved here in the u.s. however China may be approving it here soon. none the less I believe cost to produce is higher that the tech may be worth.
Full disclosure i do have a small position here with hyper solar because I do love the idea and support the renewable revolution but I am also a realist and won't be coming to any irrational conclusions about the news recently released. good luck to you

P.S. head over to SPCL board for a gander. things are getting interesting over there.

HouseofCards

09/29/16 11:38 AM

#10109 RE: rsh #10103

That is almost impossible to answer for a few reasons:

1. The amount you can charge for hydrogen is based on demand (like anything else). Are you asking if the cost to produce is less than the sales price today or will it be in a couple of years when the technology is complete and a much larger number of hydrogen cars are on the market?

2. At what scale are you talking about when you say "produced hydrogen"? Obviously costs go down the more generators you have because of economies of scale.

The best idea we have about being able to sell it for more than it costs to produce comes from the 10K and widely accepted theoretical estimations:

"It is estimated based largely on theoretical calculations that an autonomous solar H2 production system should be able to generate photovoltages exceeding 1.5 V, produce photocurrents reaching 10 mA/cm2 (~10% efficient) and the overall system cost should be ~$50/m2. Although our H2Generator achieved photovoltages greater than 1.5V and our system production cost is considerably lower than $50/m2, our focus is on improving photocurrents for our self-contained particles to boost efficiency and production volume in order to be commercially viable."

Currently, we're close to those estimations. Photovoltages are at 1.55 V as of last update, photocurrents are at 5 mA/cm2 as of last update, and as stated above the system cost is considerably lower than $50/m2.