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ChrisJP

09/24/16 10:53 AM

#82450 RE: al44 #82449

hi Al, its possible Trump could get the plurality of the popular vote, but I think its a serious uphill battle for him to get the majority of electoral votes.

Chris

Ayock

09/24/16 1:49 PM

#82456 RE: al44 #82449

Here’s a List of Facts Debunking Anti-Hillary Clinton Myths, Lies & Ridiculous Conspiracies
August 7, 2016
By Allen Clifton

Being a Hillary Clinton supporter isn’t always easy. Not because I question my support of her, but because literally hundreds of millions of dollars (over nearly a quarter century) has been spent trying to slander her name. The list of conspiracies, misinformation, lies and ridiculous propaganda people use to attack her is seemingly endless. Not a joke: There’s actually a website that tracks the “people the Clintons have had killed.” The list has well over 90 names — including John F. Kennedy, Jr. Yes, this list claims that the Clintons killed the eldest son of JFK. Oh! And apparently Bill Clinton isn’t actually Chelsea’s father. While President Obama has absolutely endured a lot of scrutiny as president, nobody comes close to what Hillary Clinton has had to endure — for nearly 25 years. So, in the spirit of the multi-hundred million dollar campaign that’s been spent trying to keep one woman out of the White House, I thought I’d take a few moments to debunk many (though not all, because I’m sure I’ll forget about as many as I’m about to list) of the myths, lies and ridiculous conspiracies that many people actually believe about Hillary Clinton.

Multiple Republican-led investigations have found that she wasn’t responsible for what happened in Benghazi: Despite what many Republican voters believe, the indisputable facts prove that there was nothing Hillary Clinton could have done to prevent what happened. And if you don’t believe me, or the Republicans in Congress who were desperately trying to blame this on her, then just ask the family of the late Ambassador Chris Stevens who’ve said it’s unfair to blame Clinton and they’re sick of his name being used for petty, political games.

No, Hillary Clinton didn’t “sleep through” the Benghazi attack: Actually, when the Benghazi attack occurred, it was mid-afternoon in Washington and she issued a public statement at 10 p.m. that night. Even in her infamous emails it shows she was emailing people around 11 p.m. that evening about the attack. There was no “stand down” order given by Hillary Clinton or the Obama administration: Yeah, despite popular right-wing folklore, this never happened. Furthermore, as Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton didn’t actually have that power.

She did not unilaterally approve a uranium deal with the Russians based on donations to the Clinton Foundation: Not only did nine other government departments have to sign off on this deal, even the author of Clinton Cash has admitted that there’s really no substainal evidence linking some sort of “pay for play” scheme while she was Secretary of State. Everything he claimed was based entirely on circumstantial evidence — which has been soundly debunked. And if you don’t believe me, just ask Fox News’ Chris Wallace who called out the author of Clinton Cash (where this myth started) last year for not having a “single piece of evidence that she was involved in this deal.” While she was wrong to say that no emails marked classified passed through her server, the FBI director did say that none of the ones that did were properly marked, and that it was “reasonable” for someone to not be aware that they were classified: When FBI Director James Comey was asked by Rep. Matt Cartwright (D-PA) if the emails Clinton received were properly marked, he said they lacked the proper headers and banners indicating they were classified and it would be a “reasonable inference” to assume that, with the absence of those banners and headers, they weren’t classified. So, while she was wrong, based on Comey’s own words, she didn’t lie.

Now on to a few of the myths some on the left believe about Hillary Clinton. She’s no better than a Repubilcan and just as conservative: She was actually ranked the 11th most liberal senator (much more liberal than Obama was) when she served, and she voted with Bernie Sanders 93 percent of the time. So, unlesss the difference between Sanders and a “conservative Republican” is seven percent of a voting record, then claiming she’s “no better than a Republican” is ridiculous.

If elected she would select conservative Supreme Court Justices: Based on what evidence? The last time we had a Clinton as president, he gave us Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer — two of our most consistently liberal Justices. Her campaign contributions prove she’s nothing but a puppet for Wall Street: Actually, President Obama set a record for the amount raised by a candidate from Wall Street — then went on to pass strict financial regulations. She’s been too pro-Wall Street: Actually, aside from one somewhat pro-Wall Street vote in eight years as senator, the only other Wall Street related issue you’ll find on her record was in 2007 when she called for tighter regulations on the finacial industry. And if you don’t believe me, just ask Bernie Sanders who, when asked during a debate to provide examples where Clinton had been corrupted by Wall Street, couldn’t pinpoint anything in her record where donations had impacted her voting record as a senator. She opposes universal health care: The truth is, she was fighting for universal health care before a good chunk of Bernie Sanders’ voters were even born. Her stance this year was that she’d rather expand the Affordable Care Act to become true universal health care rather than start a whole new fight by trying to pass a completely different health care bill. Her argument was that she would rather fix what we have than start all over. Which actually makes sense! As a lawyer, she defended a rapist: While this is true, she was ordered by a judge to take the case. When she tried to get out of it, the judge denied her request. So, she could have either thrown her career down the drain or followed through with what she was legally required to do by defending a client she didn’t want, but was ordered to defend by a judge.

She’s a shill for Walmart and served on their board of directors: While it’s true Clinton served on the board of Walmart, the reason why she was given that position was due in large part because Sam Walton was getting pressure to appoint a woman to the company’s board of directors. However, while serving on Walmart’s board, she became an advocate for hiring more women for management positions and pushed the company to adopt a much more comprehensive environmental program. So, yes, she served on Walmart’s board of directors from 1986-1992, and during that time she became a big advocate for the company promoting more women and establishing a much more extensive environmental program — how awful.

Hillary Clinton sat on the board of Monsanto: Nope, never happened. Though on the subject of GMO’s, if you don’t like Clinton’s positions, might I suggest you heed the words of Neil deGrasse Tyson.

She only recently came out in support of same-sex marriage and equality for homosexuals: Yes, that’s true — but so did President Obama. Are we really going to attack someone for realizing a mistake and evolving on an issue? There are a lot of Democrats who once opposed same-sex marriage who now proudly support it. In fact, her husband (for the time he served) was considered the most “pro-gay” president in our nation’s history. Granted, by today’s standards many of the policies of the 90’s are archaic, but for their time they were incredibly progressive and controversial.

I could keep going, but those are some of the biggest myths, conspiracies and outright lies many folks on both the left and the right actually believe about Hillary Clinton. It’s like I said the other day on Twitter, the vast majority of people I encounter who attack Hillary Clinton almost always use rhetoric that’s either based on blatant propaganda created simply to slander her name, ridiculous conspiracies, or an issue where the person is woefully misinformed about the actual facts.

I probably won’t change many minds with what I’ve written here, but I felt as if these myths needed to be debunked.

Read more at: http://www.forwardprogressives.com/debunking-anti-hillary-clinton-myths-lies-conspiracies/?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=socialnetwork