bulldzr -- I believe we can all rest quite assured such discussions have been held, and continue -- China, and for that matter Russia, no doubt well understand that if North Korea starts a war, our response will be immediate and exceedingly brutal, nothing off the table
and on the same nothing-off-the-table level, Clinton, entirely in the open in a recent speech, reiterated the Obama administration's position, stating categorically that North Korea will not be permitted to achieve a strategic, as in nuclear, missile capability -- period, full stop