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Shell Man

07/31/16 10:53 AM

#24482 RE: Dubb10 #24481

GRNH I agree Dubb. No way IMO would it be descheduled. Due to the treaties bit also because the big government ship just does not go 180 degree turns like that and the general public IMO is just not ready to see MJ being smoked all over the place as people do with cigarettes for example. A phased rescheduling IMO is a nice slow method to get the public used to the idea...an example would be Clinton's don't ask don't tell policy with the military. No way would the public have allowed homosexuals in the military if he had tried to omploment that at that time. However after over a decade of don't ask don't tell Obama was able to omploment it with fairly little opposition (Not trying to start another debate here just using it as an example in trying to stay on topic). So IMO I see schedule II then a progression all the way to V. Its all good. As for the treaties I see them as a current block to descedule and that's something the State Department will be working on with countries as rescheduling continues. As long as its medical Dubb I think it does not break the treaties. Also another point to your topic. Its an embarrassment to the State Department with these treaties because IMO the US was the leader in the global war on drugs and probably strong fisted many of these counties into signing. So at these embassy tea parties US SD reps are getting egg on their faces and rather than defend the US they only care about their own little world where they feel they are the elite of the nation so they will drag their heels to avoid further embarrassment. They have no clue about the "real world" they live in a cacoon of tea parties and luxury and don't want that messed up. ..... uh a anyway let's go Schedule II !!!!!!!!! Enough of a Sunday rant and rave from the Shell Man.....to.e to grill and drink some beers and..... ( :
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porkypigg

07/31/16 5:21 PM

#24485 RE: Dubb10 #24481



GERMANY -the next MJ domino to fall-

Germany is going to legalize cannabis in 2017, according to the German health minister. The German government recently announced that they are going to approve a bill that would allow terminally ill patients who have spoken to doctors and “have no therapeutic alternative” to have access to medical marijuana.

“Our goal is that seriously ill people are looked after to the best of our ability,” Federal Health Minister Hermann Gröhe stated.

Gröhe added that he would like health insurance companies to pay for the drug if patients can not be helped in any other way. Even then, Marlene Mortler, Germany’s federal drug commissioner warned that cannabis should not be considered completely innocuous.

“The use of cannabis as a medicine within narrow limits is useful and should be explored in more detail,” Mortler stated. “At the same time, cannabis is not a harmless substance, a legalization for private pleasure is not the aim and purpose of this. It is intended for medical use only.”

This step is coming as a number of countries have begun to look into legalization in terms of marijuana, both recreationally as well as medically. Amsterdam in the nearby Netherlands is well known for its light cannabis laws. In North America, Canada’s health minister announced that Canada would be introducing federal marijuana legislation in the spring of 2017. The District of Columbia, Colorado, Washington, Alaska and Oregon in the United States all have allowed recreational cannabis use although it is still illegal under the federal government there.

In addition, Guam, along with over half of the United States allow some type of medical use, the Nation Conference of State Legislatures reports. Further south, Chile recently cultivated the largest legal cannabis field in Latin America. During 2013, Uruguay became the first country to fully legalize cannabis for recreational use.
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Dubb10

07/31/16 10:32 PM

#24494 RE: Dubb10 #24481

Here's a 2014 Brookings Institution discussion forum on the international hurdles the US faces as its attitude towards marijuana changes.

*1hr 50 mins*
49:27 - Additional comments on international hurdles
1:01:45 - Audience Q&A
(warning: very dry discussion)