Grill...thats my point. IPCI is very close in the process to the two companies you mentioned but not nearly the market cap. its not that IPCI isn't known by the street. It is. the question then becomes what are they seeing that we aren't? as Angelio pointed out the way to value these stocks we should already be up much further than we are. just like the others. The street clearly is picking up on something it doesn't like. I haven't been able to figure out what.