So heres the thing, you have answes for everyone, but the one REAL question you cannot answer is what are the difference between companies that actually do emerge from bankruptcy and actually keep shareholders intact vs. this company? I mean, you COULD answer that question correctly, however, then it would not support your claims that shareholders are doomed theory and what fun is that? I think its great to hear a debate, its just good business... but all you are playing at right now is a game. You've given a lot of good information on why investing in bk companies is a bad idea, which is great for those who want (and should know) about those. But what you cant provide is information on why this company stock will fail when other companies in the SAME situation have emerged with benefit to the share holders. Nonetheless, your stance does provide entertainment for others and I think as long as you continue to make it a game it can be fun, but when you actually start to believe the crap you are saying, it will just be sad... I know you are smart enough to differentiate between the intelligent things you say and the crap.