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06/24/16 4:27 AM

#249982 RE: F6 #249979

Live EU referendum live: David Cameron resigns as UK shocks the world by voting for Brexit

.. many suggested if Leave won the EU would be forced to look in the mirror .. this one goes to that ..

8:56AM Brexit is just the beginning

Jean-Luc Mélenchon, French firebrand leftist MEP, said that France would have voted to the leave the EU if asked. "This is the end of a world that begins with this Brexit," he told France Info radio.

"This teaches a lesson to the whole of Europe - either we change it or we leave it. This is the time for a plan B."

He described the current EU as "dead, killed by privileges for the cast of Eurocrats, by permanent lies, by the politics of flexibility...Everyone has had enough."

He said that already the "five president of the EU" had started "the process of drawing up a new (EU) treaty".

"Once again, they are doing so in hiding. Once again leaders are not talking. I fear a domino effect."

"The daily reality of Europe doesn't correspond at all to what the EU tried to start 30 years ago at least. Germany must stop ceaselessly telling other peoples what's best for them. France must have some willpower and make proposals. It's not that much to ask to live ones life working and being paid in a dignified way, receiving healthcare and education. All this is cast into question with the EU."

Henry Samuel, France correspondent

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/24/eu-referendum-results-live-brexit-wins-as-britain-votes-to-leave/

Scotland? 4 months ago.

Think a Brexit vote would push Scotland out of the UK? Think again

Martin Kettle

Even if Britain leaves the European Union, there are many hurdles facing any renewed bid for Scottish independence – as the SNP well knows

Friday 26 February 2016 06.49 AEDT


‘Sturgeon doesn’t have the power to call a referendum; the UK parliament does. Would it agree? If she tries to
press ahead anyway the courts could stop her, and stop the use of public funds.’ Photograph: Andrew Milligan/PA

[...]

...it may be worth remembering that back in 1975, when the UK last voted on Europe, Scots were pro-EU by 58% to 42%; but the English actually voted pro-EU by a much larger margin of 69% to 31%, and the only two of the 68 UK counties that voted no were Shetland and the Western Isles. Back then, the SNP itself was also for out.

That’s all 40 years ago and much has changed radically, of course. Today Scotland is solidly in favour of remaining in the EU while UK-wide opinion is much more evenly divided. But the evidence for saying that a UK vote to leave the EU would boost support for independence is extremely fragile, as Professor John Curtice – most people’s go-to pollster on these questions – has written.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/25/brexit-vote-scotland-out-uk-scottish-independence