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FM II

06/17/16 7:51 AM

#4071 RE: reaper247 #4070

I think it is hilarious that you completely ignored the fact that there was no Breiting Oil and Gas in Texas or Oklahoma before 2009. You like to nit pick what I say, but only that which is convenient for you.

Rather than mental gymnastics and assumptions about the company’s history, maybe you could simply share the date that you believe Breitling became a public company, and how you came to your conclusion.


Already done several times.

I have stated that BECC became a public company in January, 2014 based on filings from the SOS, SEC and FINRA.
Anyone can verify.


Already discussed several times

Please share your source for your claims. I would like to see if I am actually wrong.

Which claims? That BECC is a NV corporation founded more than 5 years ago? That would be the SEC.

BTW, sourcing bloggers pretending to be journalists at the Dallas Observer, or any other liberal leaning, anti-fracking buffoon’s website should be immediately dismissed by any casual observer as nonsense.


...and you, who have nothing left to bring to the table can only insult people and papers, but cannot bring any evidence to dispute the facts from the sources. Yes, I know there are complete idiots that think that liberal papers can't ask a question and publish the answer. I made several statements, never once said they are known to be true, provided sources including the OK SOS and above is your response. Sad.

So why don't you bring something to the discussion. When did Southwest Energy Exploration change its name to Breitling Oil and Gas? Got anything? ...anything at all, oh expert on Breitling history?

Did CF form up Southwest Energy Exploration, use the LLC off and on for five years then form Breitling Oil and Gas, Inc., buy his own company and crow about what a deal he negotiated? Surely that is not true and surely you know the correct story, expert that you are. Easy stuff for a trader like you. Got anything? ...anything at all?

And my other question as per usual still hangs unanswered, by what criteria is Breitling Oil and Gas, LLC the same company as Breitling Oil and Gas, Inc. We will be waiting for a substantive response. I have a feeling we will be waiting a long time.

You have consistently claimed Breitling was formed in 2004, which CF himself disputes so you are wrong. You have tried to what? discredit me? BECC no longer has the right to do business in Texas, in the things that matter, I don't see how I could have been more correct.

TIA, LOL, IMO and FWIW.

FM II

06/17/16 10:33 AM

#4072 RE: reaper247 #4070

Using your logic, the assumption could be made that Breitling Energy has existed as a corporation for 16 years.

No need to assume and no need to use my logic. There is no logic involved; it is documented fact that the corporation now named Breitling Energy (BECC) existed for 16 years. (No I didn't check, I presume you got the date right.) Every authority I have checked, including the Texas Comptroller knows that BECC is a NV corporation and has existed as a NV corporation since, you know, it was incorporated. The fact that you assert otherwise is of no consequence.

FM II

06/17/16 10:42 AM

#4073 RE: reaper247 #4070

Reaper, why don't you focus for a moment on facts rather than definitions. I formed a theory, clearly stated that it was not proven. If should be trivially easy for you to disprove all of it and I welcome it, it would further my understanding. Here is the points of substance from my post, if you are interested in substance:

So this is what I think happened and may be able to confirm it later if I get bored.

Southwest Energy Exploration was formed and run by CF in 2004. It came into existence and was terminated a few times then was purchased by Breitling Oil and Gas, Inc. in late 2009 to early 2010 (according the to press release). In 2010, Southwest Energy Exploration changed its name to Breitling Oil and Gas, LLC, at the time or shortly thereafter that it was purchased by Breitling Oil and Gas, Inc.

There was no Oklahoma Breitling until after Texas Breitling was established. The earliest that there was a Breitling Oil and Gas was 2009. Yes, as I said many times, CF had been in the oil business for about 10 years (though I now know there were gaps and he was not full time until 2008). Southwest Energy Exploration was a separate company that was bought by Breitling Oil and Gas, Inc. after negotiating the purchase. Unless Breitling Oil and Gas, Inc. negotiated with itself and contracted with its own management to remain for five years, the companies were distinct both in name and management.

I will admit, that this is convoluted and strange considering the press release. Perhaps there was a different Southwest than the one that became Breitling Oil and Gas in 2010, but I could not find it.

johnny46

06/28/16 10:34 AM

#4115 RE: reaper247 #4070

Victory is sweet.