The problem is that your facts are 5 years old and you just assumed things based on nothing other than 'this is how it is in otc' why don't we focus on current facts based on yesterday Q report. This is what matters now and will decide how stock performs. Company reported almost $800k in sales during first quarter and only $100k loss.. who knows maybe next Q is going to be profitable. .. show me any trip stock being profitable with these kind of sales. . Also they have $150k cash on hand and additional in accounts receivable. No new convertible notes but credit lines only with payments and backed by CEO. GRNE