Yes, the Mad Hatter deal isn't conjecture but all the numbers I have seen are just from PR. "IMO this should be selling at $0.10" is just as good as "ENDEXX has experienced, on average, 30-40% growth rate and expect revenue to hit their books in the third calendar quarter" as far as I'm concerned. Neither has any factual hard numbers to back up those claims, and the market price reflects that. Even in the OTC Market you need a little more than hope to move some shares. 30% of nothing is still nothing.