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StephanieVanbryce

04/07/16 12:03 PM

#247393 RE: SoxFan #247392

not only is he hard of hearing and an oaf BUT he is sexist to the max..

I saw that he told his wife , right in the mic, that she couldn't stand next to him anymore... I forgot about that until uh.....?
two days ago or so? .. and she was with him again ... and he looked at her .. and off she scurried .. .. cripes!
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fuagf

04/12/16 11:34 PM

#247583 RE: SoxFan #247392

Why I feel betrayed by Bernie Sanders

Lucia Graves

I believed him when he said his campaign was about something more elevated than winning. The attacks on Clinton are a damaging turn in the wrong direction


Democratic presidential candidates Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders in Durham,
New Hampshire, February 4, 2016. Photograph: Justin Sullivan/Getty Images

Contact author @lucia_graves

Tuesday 12 April 2016 07.00 EDT
Last modified on Tuesday 12 April 2016 16.54 EDT

When Bernie Sanders announced he was running for president last April, I was ecstatic about his candidacy. I was intoxicated by the idea that he would pressure Hillary Clinton – a sometimes maddeningly dedicated pragmatist and incrementalist eager to skip the primary election entirely – to uphold the highest liberal standards on everything from environmental protection to financial reform and foreign intervention.

"To me a campaign about more than the presidency meant pushing Clinton left, even as he maintained a respectful tone"

I believed him when he said his campaign was about something more elevated than winning.

And it’s a message that, until recently, resonated. “This campaign is not just about electing a president, it is about making a political revolution,” Sanders said after a victory in his home state of Vermont. After significant losses on Super Tuesday, he defended the decision to continue competing in the primary on similar terms .. http://www.vox.com/2016/3/1/11143938/bernie-sanders-super-tuesday-transcript . “One of the reasons I believe we are doing so well is because people know that this campaign is about more than electing a president – it is about transforming America.”

To me, a campaign about more than the electing a president meant pushing Clinton left, even as Sanders maintained a completely respectful tone and did everything in his power to protect her from the coming attacks in the general election. But now, as the primary stretches into mid-spring, his message is increasingly about beating Clinton – both how he can do it in the primary and how he is better positioned than she is to win in November.

Early on, Sanders would bristle when the press asked him about Clinton. He was hostile to any line of questioning encouraging him to take a swipe at her, as embodied perhaps most famously in his “the American people are sick and tired of hearing about your damn emails” comment.

More recently, during a debate in South Carolina, he lashed out at the media for continually goading him to attack Clinton. “I cannot walk down the street – Secretary Clinton knows this – without being told how much I have to attack Secretary Clinton,” he told NBC News’ Andrea Mitchell during the network’s Democratic debate in January, adding: “I am trying to run an issue-oriented campaign.”

This was the Bernie Sanders I knew and loved. But it’s a Sanders that’s becoming harder to recognize as talk turns increasingly to finessing primary math and the petty politics of debate schedules.

His team has grown more and more obsessed with helping their candidate clinch the nomination, a plan that’s now based on convincing more superdelegates to come to their side ahead of the convention. And this comes after his campaign initially decried Clinton’s lead among superdelegates as undemocratic.

After a convention in Nevada where Sanders ended up with more pledged delegates than Clinton even after losing the popular vote, his campaign touted it. And at one point, Sanders’ top strategist, Tad Devine, went so far as to call for the flipping of pledged delegates heading into the convention, a strategy that is patently undemocratic, though the campaign has since backed away from that controversial strategy.

[ CHECK? - Clinton emerged on caucus day with a lead of 20 to 15 in statewide delegates. According to a report from Nevada, that
margin has narrowed to 18 to 17 after a second round in the process, known as the county conventions, which took place Saturday.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/04/03/a-scrappy-sanders-campaign-narrows-the-nevada-delegate-count-six-weeks-after-the-caucuses/ .. i'm not sure if that was the final result ]

At the same time, his supporters have gotten nastier. On Twitter, the trolls are increasingly conspiratorial. Write anything remotely skeptical about Sanders’ difficulties surmounting Clinton’s commanding lead in delegates, and you’ll be accused of being in the tank for Clinton.

This was made worse by his campaign’s subtly sexist attacks on Clinton’s ambition, as New York magazine’s Rebecca Traister has observed .. http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/04/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-tries-too-hard-ambitious.html# . There was Sanders’ campaign manager, Jeff Weaver, telling CNN’s Jake Tapper: “Don’t destroy the Democratic party to satisfy the secretary’s ambitions to become president of the United States,” in the wake of a Sanders win in Wisconsin. There was Devine proclaiming in a call with reporters that Clinton’s “grasp … on the nomination” was based “almost entirely on … victories in states where Bernie Sanders did not compete .. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-campaign_us_56f98f5ae4b0a372181aa375 ”. And there was the suggestion that her difficulty accommodating an earlier debate schedule in Brooklyn stemmed from a workaholic nature and disregard for other people’s schedules.

Even Sanders himself seems to have reneged on his earlier promises not to go after Clinton personally, as when he recently suggested his policy differences with her made her “unqualified” to be president. Bill Clinton was among the voices to push back vociferously, telling MSNBC the following day the comment was “so silly” and that she was “more [qualified] than I was in ’92”. And a day later .. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/bernie-sanders-defends-calling-hillary-clinton-unqualified-article-1.2593177 , the old Bernie was back, insisting that “of course” she was qualified to be president .. http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2016/apr/08/us-election-new-york-clinton-sanders-trump-cruz-kasich .. and adding she would be an infinitely better president than either of the Republican candidates.

But his tone-deaf comment still stuck in my craw. It was a reminder of the times Sanders suggested Clinton stop “shouting” about gun control (women are frequently inappropriately accused of shouting or being overly emotional) and his campaign condescendingly suggested .. http://www.vox.com/identities/2015/11/5/9671830/bernie-sanders-sexism .. they’d welcome Clinton as Sander’s veep.

Then there was a piece in the New York Times .. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/04/us/politics/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton.html?_r=0 .. quoting Sanders staffers and positing the senator from Vermont was only losing the race because he’d been so nice and reluctant to attack Clinton. “Competing aggressively against Mrs Clinton in 2015 was not part of the Sanders strategy when he announced his candidacy last April,” the piece observed.

Far from being the reason Sanders is losing, his reluctance to attack Clinton was central to his popularity – with me, anyway, and I know a lot of others as well. His campaign’s attacks on Clinton, sexist and otherwise, will go straight into Republican arsenals. Come the general election, they will be used to weaken the woman who is at this point the likely Democratic nominee, to say nothing of the most qualified woman to have a real shot at the president in 200-plus years.

Perhaps it is inevitable that a guy who’s idealistic enough to run on a message of revolution is not practical enough to realize when he can’t win and is instead doing the party harm.

Sanders has said, and Devine recently reiterated to .. https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/04/08/has-sanders-joined-the-bernie-or-bust-movement-nah/ .. the Washington Post’s Greg Sargent, that Sanders will be a big time booster of Clinton if it comes to it. But now it’s coming to it (we’re around three months away from the convention), and if he and his team keep up the attacks, it may be too late to prevent lasting damage.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/apr/12/bernie-sanders-betrayed-hillary-clinton-attacks

See also:

here's some good fact checking! .. Rachel nails his fanny to the donkey..
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=121762806

...When challenged on the statement, Sanders resorted to the she-hit-me-first defense: “She has been saying lately that she thinks that
I am, quote-unquote, not qualified to be president.” The problem is that Clinton never said such a thing. In fact, when pressed repeatedly by
“Morning Joe” host Joe Scarborough on the question, Clinton touted herself as the better choice but refused to say that Sanders is unqualified....
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=121787619

Sanders supporter publishes “hit list” of superdelegates, includes woman’s home address
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=121845261