No Frankie not the top 5 you're talking about. I meant one of the top 5 liars without any remorse. I didn't mean he was a top 5 big timer. He's just a little insignificant nobody as you already know. One poster has said the preferred shares he gave himself and his pals have been taken away and put out of his reach. He is just beginning to answer for his lying and deceiving and being short, fat and stupid won't be a defense for him either.