Big Casino that is one way to look at. The other way would be why would three people who know everything about this company buy more shares when it is on life support given to it Dr Schewe? I do congradulate you on your research which has always been first class. I have not bought or sold a share of VSPC for years. I am happy with my position which I am prepared to lose and not be hurt by it or for that matter bothered by it. I can assure you that if this should go into triple zeros I would be a buyer because insiders are buying and fluff PRs are not being released.