Stupid question pennies........you keep saying that the 4th TDI wave is where the greater pips can be found, so are you talking wave 3 to wave 4 mark, or are you wave 4 mark to wave 5 mark, which would be the final TDI wave in 5 wave group? The latter is what I think you are trying to say, which can be visualized in your A/U 4 hour pink wave count as well as your first set of red TDI waves.