Thank you, Butters, for these insights. You obviously have done your DD on niobium and are providing a unbiased, straightforward view of the value niobium provides to society. You are a credit to the forum in which you post, and I for one want to thank you for the edification. I thought niobium made steel lighter, and stronger, and to me that seemed valuable. But, thank you for pointing out that it is DOG FOOD. I get it now. Thanks.