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Celtics123

01/17/16 9:50 AM

#46484 RE: Libertarian74 #46483

I actually am afraid baiyin will keep price down for a cheap future buyout. Any thoughts here?
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Congo Mining

01/17/16 9:58 AM

#46485 RE: Libertarian74 #46483

We're all concerned about that but if they had wanted to do that they could have sent them under in 2014 far more easily than they could now with both mines operating. in 2014 they provided the Liquidity Backstop.

Lets assume that Namoya produces 50% of the quantity of EBITDA that Twangiza does that would be...

Twangiza EBITDA 20 million

Namoya EBITDA 10 million

Total EBITDA per quarter 30 million.

More than enough to find proper financing.

They could have not been supportive in 2014 and early 2015 instead they found Gold Holding to make a streaming deal and when that fell through they steeped in to do their own streaming. And Kondradt bought 900k shares.

I too am concerned but when you really peal back all the parts it seems like they are willing to support the current share structure.

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nagoya1

01/17/16 10:08 AM

#46486 RE: Libertarian74 #46483

I believe it was in 2014, Blackrock did a deal with Gramercy.
(before you started posting in early 2015)

Blackrock bought a certain % of Gramercy in order for Blackrock to control their votes in BAA.

Blackrock was unable to increase their % of BAA shares without losing their votes, BAA has provisions that if a shareholder has more than 20% of the OS, they cannot vote on BAA matters.

It's something to that effect. Could someone else confirm this.

Thanks in advance

GO BAA

Gramercy being a "vulture" wouldn't apply, Blackrock owns their votes.



Congo Mining Friday, 04/10/15 03:06:56 AM
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GRAMERCY AND BLACKROCK

NOT A REQUIREMENT

as some traders who are more intelligent and better informed than than I have pointed out Gramercey does not have to sell...

They likely want to be under 20% so they can vote in the case of a proxy fight or takeover bid. If they execute all their convertibles that are in the money at about 0.5673 and their Warrents in the money at 0.269 they will be above the 20%. They do not have to sell any more shares at any time if they choose not to... but apparently they feel this is a good time to start.

As the statistician pointed out Blackrock has accumulated also...Blackrock also holds a large position in the bonds due in 2017. I believe they acquired them in the original private placement in 2012. So have a vested interest in the company and know it well also.

Furthermore... Blackrock owns a little bit of Gramercy

After the financing BAA (still way undervalued) might be a takeover target...in addition, there was a case last year where some vulture fund bought 1000 shares of BAA and started a proxy battle that cost the company 2 million at a very vulnerable point.

So perhaps...
Gramercy and Blackrock, don't want to put up with anything like that once they've allocated a lot of capital. Voting together would (likely) fend off any shenanigans.

In effect...
Blackrock may be buying the shares Gramercy is selling.

As a side note, I get the impression that Gramercy guided the management changes that brought in the set of Pros we have now.

SOMEONE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

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StockItOut

01/17/16 6:19 PM

#46516 RE: Libertarian74 #46483

Two factors:

1.) Baiyin says will support Banro's future projects and development. Does not sound like it intends to take over Banro. Suggests it understands the independent entity Banro is.

2.) DRC. The country of Democratic Republic of the Congo. As I've stated previously several times, I have the impression that the DRC government and Banro have a pretty solid relationship with understanding and intent for mutual benefit. Banro came to DRC early, as investor of resource development for and of the country, and subsequently Banro has been rewarded very favorable long term tax status; with a 10 year tax pass on gold production once a mine goes commercial, and 25 years on land/surface. Wow, right? And Banro sits upon with controlling access to a massive swath of land rich in said mineral resources.

I continue to think Banro will be maintained as an independent organization, in supportive and mutual benefit with and for itself and the DRC.

Yet, Banro is a private entity which must solve its own concerns.

Baiyin has just provided some very favorable terms of financing at a low 8.5% interest, and has supplied much needed cash to Banro, with Baiyin's publicly expressed support of Banro for the longer term. Baiyin introducing itself publicly as being in support while secretly it acts with malice? Seems quite unlikely, and would not be good business practices where trust is vital.

Regardless of Gramercy being the 'parasite' or not, mitigation has arrived. Though if, as suggested, Gramercy is ill willed and is 'selfishly' contrary to Banro's interests, the balance of influence still has to be worked out among Banro's ownership entities. Yet said balance seems to me has now shifted in strength to Banro, in particular per this recent new long term support from Baiyin, and Banro's continued and ongoing support in relationship with and from the country of, and government of, the DRC.

All the concern of the "risk" of Banro's 'location' in the DRC, comes down ultimately to decisions made by the DRC.

I believe the relationship of DRC and Banro is notably positive for both.

Banro continues to likewise express itself as favorable for the DRC and for Banro's DRC local communities, evidenced by Banro's community development efforts, most notably and just recently, having turned focus and effort in action with and on sustainable community driven agriculture. Wow, nice! Cool! Smart!

Banro also has what seems a positive relationship with DRC's local tribes and tribal leadership. No other outside entity does. The governmental leadership of the DRC I believe is respectfully understanding, if not also appreciative, of its roots, its heritage.

Banro is a win for DRC. Which is a win for Banro. That is if Banro can get it sh*t together. Which, being addressed, in what newly seems also mutually beneficial and a respectful accord with Baiyin, is also a win for Baiyin.

Gramercy's influence has been minimized as Gramercy is no longer 'top shelf.'

Seems likely (though not clear to me) the same in regard to Blackrock's influence over Banro, though I would not count Blackrock out, but do rather consider their position and influence one that is also, in particular with recent re-distriubtuion of Banro ownership with the very recent entrance and support of Baiyin, as tertiary.