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judge2236

12/04/15 12:42 PM

#1853 RE: Frisbee #1852

Mr. Frisbee:

I have no disagreement with anything you have stated on your latest post. You are totally correct once again.
And yes, you are correct that since I no longer have stock in this company, it is inappropriate to meet you at EK Labs. Wish you nothing but the best on your research.
By the way, the founder I know never pushed his company on anyone. Occasionally he would casually mention something about it and if no one responded, then another word was not said that evening.

Once I heard about the company, I was intrigued as I had never known the founder of any company in person. So I am the one who would typically start the conversations about the company. He would answer my questions and would not reveal anything a board member should not reveal. He stuck to the press releases for the most part. When he retired in November 2014 from the company, he said he could talk a little more in detail because he no longer was an officer in the company.
He said his prayer was that God would give him a billion dollars thru the company and that he would spend 1 billion and one dollars on spreading the gospel. This statement would be in line with his 5 faith based films, all of which lost money from my review of the public records. It looks like he has spent a lot of his own money spreading a message he strongly believes in.

This does not excuse my lack of due diligence as I have already stated.

The founder is very personable and much, much younger looking than his years (70). He shows a lot of class in his demeanor. He is quite likable and he still believes his company will succeed if you talk to him. I have met his son and his daughter as well as his wife. I respect them all. The last time I heard, his daughter and her husband are serving as Christian missionaries in a third world country.

I could be totally wrong about this company.

Best wishes to you!

LTE

12/08/15 12:00 AM

#1876 RE: Frisbee #1852

{And while the patent is viable}

Frisbee =

You have no idea what you're talking about:

<<Forbes Magazine - Update (Oct 7, 2014)

For Most Small Companies Patents Are Just About Worthless

Many entrepreneurs misunderstand the value patents create, and how difficult they are to enforce....

Patents are often quite narrow and hence can be circumvented...

Enforcing your patent in the courts is a nightmare. Plan on 3-5 years and $3-$5 million to get to a judgment. And then there is the appeal … Usually the stakes and time frame will be too much for a start-up. One of my portfolio companies sued a big company for infringement, and the judge has ruled that infringement occurred, but there are many legal maneuvers available, and the litigation clock and meter tick on in year four. We think the big company wants to make a statement: “let this be a lesson to small companies that have the temerity to sue us for infringement …” Patent litigation is the true sport of kings.>>

http://www.forbes.com/sites/toddhixon/2013/10/04/for-most-small-companies-patents-are-just-about-worthless/



judge2236

12/08/15 1:23 PM

#1877 RE: Frisbee #1852

Hi Mr Frisbee:
You will likely find that the door is locked at 208 West Marvin Avenue, and that no one is present when you visit. You likely will not be able to enter, especially if you show up unannounced. If you try to get an appointment, you likely won 't get one.

The press release from June 11 states that "EK Labs will not only be the quality control center for the CTS process around the world, it will also be a profit center and operate as an independent lab capable of a wide range of analysis for industrial materials, pharmaceuticals, fuels, gases, pesticides, pollutants, sugars, perfumes, lipids, fatty acids and a wide range on other materials and industries".

HINT: All the technical arguments of the past few days going back and forth between LTE and the insiders and some outsiders are all very good but if this tiny warehouse is always shut down and closed to the world, it might possibly be an indication that your debates might possibly be superfluous.

The truth of this company relies on the physical site where the company states their disruptive global technology has been proven on multiple occasions. If no outsider can get in to observe all these technological wonders, then this might indicate a problem or two. It might also indicate your focus is misplaced.

LTE

12/17/15 8:45 PM

#1898 RE: Frisbee #1852

<<The other subject of the warehouse/lab is my concern as well... I will be going over there shortly to check out if it is active or not... Probably next Thursday. I would ask you to meet me, but since you no longer have a dog in this fight I will keep you updated here. I will take photos if they let me. And if no one is there I will post that too. >>

Frisbee, your report is one week late.

But I'm not surprised because everything touching this company
appears to be a scam.

LTE

05/09/16 10:07 AM

#2141 RE: Frisbee #1852

<< I will take photos if they let me. And if no one is there I will post that too. >>

Frisbee, where are those photos?

It's been five long months!

Maybe they didn't let you take photos?

Is that because ALLM's facilities in Longwood are just
like Aerotyne's shack in this video??