Col, you are saying a known death spiral convertible group files a 13g and you actually believe Patrick when he says "i don't know"?
Man if you can't see what just happened then I don't know what to say......
This group NEVER goes long, their firm is set up to do death spiral financing's... all you have to do is Google them and then pull up the tickers of all the companies they financed or whatever and see the stock performance....