You, PoorP-S, get my vote as winner of the debate.
In all the years I've watched the posts on this board it seems to me that:
the negative posters neither accept the evidences of others nor change their comments because of them. My conclusion is that they are not about honesty...but just about repeating their negative comments about the CEO, company and other positive posters.
the positive posters post what they know, such as radio ads for the MKR, and believe in, a hard working, honest and hopeful CEO and company.....
and I believe the twain will not meet...until success or failure of the company is final.