johnebsr, you said a mouthful, worthless shares. I have talked to the trading departments of both TD Ameritrade and Etrade and Incame away from both discussions being told that the company, Trina, after one year from date of the issue of those dividend shares could have have had in place the right of the shareholder's holding those shares to be able to trade them wether in the Prefered status or changed into common then immediately tradable. If folks have not seen what Trina is all about by now, they probably never will. This is a pure junk stock,only good for quick buy and sell maybe a couple of time each year. This has been a one way stock since Trina has been the CEO. It is all in the record books, history of this company. GLTY