Depending on who you are talking about...... There realistically may be no beginning in sight which would make the end much easier to see. On the other hand KBLB has samples, has been considered in multiple contests for textiles and inventions sure to please. They didn't lose their samples and many people have seen and touched and held them. Talk is cheap and speculation is free. The near future should outline and solidify the progress of KBLB. At that time I will be glad to compare KBLB with other companies . Compare their future, their earnings , and their success. Problem is you will have moved on because there will be nothing left to talk about.