Red Angus, I agree with you, you either have a pair between your legs or you don't, it may be like you say something may be cooking on the other kitchen and we do not know what they are cooking. Let's leave the kitchen and go into the court room, VRNG, has been led into a lengthy path they should have gone for the full blown motion against ZTE and after GOOGLE, now you have brought the LION into your den again, I can't believe how this is developing into a 10 year war. GLTA