True but after nine or ten years and even longer wuth an investment and with nothing to show for one's effort, one has to face reality and realize that sometimes one's initial assessment was wrong and that in this case the company may never be successful. No matter how one evaluates this company/stock, as I stated before,it is a failure by ANY OBJECTIVE CRITERION and simply making optimistic projections looking forward at this juncture is subjective at best based because of continued and sustained failure up to now.