I think the runup on both is the same. Untill we here more info. I think if one is going to sink then they both will sink at this point. The only thing the preferred has at this point, is its not being played with cause of the spread and the options on long short putts . But the preferred has such a low float and low volume , believe 85k a day. That its hard to get a true read on. I doubt any big hitters or any really long NBG preferred shareholders who are still in have any plan on selling now. So the pps is there is made by retail investors. Which some dont like to sell and be waiting a hour to over s hour on the ask side. End up just selling if the bid is close. There's no way that it should be at 52week low and down 15% yesterday, talking preferred. I can't see in a million years that this to date is the worst time for NBG. That's why I think my 3.73 entry, I can get out at 5.00 by Tuesday there and make 25% , to recoup what I'm down on common like you said . I hope , which lately has been like Bob Hope, which has no hope.