To be fair...
Opinions vary on both issues...
....and they have so for quite some time.
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As to complicity or not...
It should be realized & remembered, that smart, sophisticated, experienced & seasoned scammers, are not only going to be real good at their craft, on many levels, which of course would naturally include actions designed w/the sort of finesse, such that would leave some observers saying (as you did..) that certain events/actions seem to set them (vplm) apart from complicity. But that's always possibly part of a ploy.. I'll agree to leave open the door for the possibility of non complicity.... but short of a huge sale, I'll not be able to not at least suspect complicity in some way, shape or form. There are at the very least, as many signs, signals & red flags that point towards complicity, as the opposite & that's being generous.
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As to patent interest/value.....c'mon, be real...I've challenged numerous times, for to show any iota of solid evidence of it & I've never seen any. There been a couple invalid (my opinion) attempts to show it, via indirect "stretches", but no solid evidence from anyone, anytime, anywhere. On balance, the things that to me, point to possible complicity, are also not very empirical, nevertheless they are there. I don't think it's possible to call it cut & dry, cut in stone, beyond doubt, either way.
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