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06/19/15 10:37 PM

#234628 RE: F6 #234556

The 5 Biggest Lies Conservative “Christians” Tell About Themselves

June 14, 2015 By Allen Clifton



While I disagree with Republicans on most things, I will admit that they damn sure know how to play people for fools. One of the most brilliant moves they ever made was realizing that if they could somehow get people to mix their religion in with their politics, they could get tens of millions of people to believe damn near anything - and it worked .. http://www.forwardprogressives.com/introducing-republicanity-the-real-religion-conservatives-worship/ . For the most part, conservatives view their religion and their politics as one in the same. To them, being a Republican is every bit as important as being a Christian and vice versa.

But there’s just one problem: The Republican party doesn’t represent true Christian values – not even close.

In fact, I thought I’d list 5 of the biggest lies these conservative “Christians” often tell about themselves.

1. They support freedom: This one has always confounded me a bit. You can’t say you want a nation built on both freedom and religion – that doesn’t make any sense. Being that religion by its very nature is predicated upon rules and control, you can’t logically claim to be the “party for freedom and liberty” while also trying to base large portions of your political ideology on religious principles that literally millions of people don’t share.

2. They’re pro-life: For some reason these people have equated opposing abortion to being “pro-life.” Here’s my rule: When you’re constantly pushing for more war, while supporting the death penalty and often vilifying the poor .. http://www.forwardprogressives.com/indiana-republican-one-guts-let-poor-wither-die/ .. and needy, you lose all right to call yourselves “pro-life.”

3. They care about the poor and income inequality: This one might be my favorite. Republicans are constantly trying to gut programs that help the most needy among us, while simultaneously painting them as “lazy moochers,” while also opposing raising the minimum wage .. https://www.facebook.com/allencliftonROC/posts/729055467205569?pnref=story – yet they’re unapologetic about their support for massive tax breaks for the richest among us. They’re literally trying to convince us that the “solution” to income inequality is more of the same policies that caused it to begin with .. http://www.forwardprogressives.com/who-the-hell-is-still-buying-into-the-scam-of-trickle-down-economics/ . And what are those polices? The ones that make the rich even richer at the expense of everyone else.

4. They respect religious freedom: This is one of the biggest lies there is. Sure, they want Christians (or at least their brand of Christianity) to have unlimited ability to say and do whatever they want. But that’s where their love for “religious freedom .. http://www.forwardprogressives.com/5-examples-showing-difference-liberals-conservatives-religious-freedom/ ” stops. When it comes to any other religions, or those who choose to follow no religion, that’s when many of these people typically lose it. While these so-called “religious freedom” advocates want the ability for a Christian-owned business to be able to deny service to homosexuals, could you imagine if some businesses began denying service to Christians? Many of these same “religious freedom” folks would absolutely lose their minds.

5. They’re Christians: I thought I’d save the best for last. The fact that many of these people call themselves Christians to begin with is comical .. http://www.forwardprogressives.com/its-time-to-tell-the-truth-republicans-arent-christians/ . Jesus Christ, whether you believe he was real or not, symbolizes love, acceptance, tolerance, hope, generosity and compassion – which is pretty much the antithesis to what the Republican party represents. Forgive me if I have trouble envisioning Jesus Christ as someone who’d be a gun-loving, anti-immigrant, poor hating advocate for unregulated capitalism and greed, who felt it was acceptable to judge and discriminate against homosexuals. You know, your typical conservative.

Well, there are my “top 5,” though there are clearly more. Feel free to hit me up on Twitter .. http://www.twitter.com/Allen_Clifton .. or Facebook .. https://www.facebook.com/allencliftonROC and let me know what you think.

http://www.forwardprogressives.com/5-biggest-lies-conservative-christians-tell/#disqus_thread

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Race has no biological or genetic basis:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=94841717

Put simply race is a social construct. It's simple, yet sadly too many conservative Christians racists are too insecure to accept the fact.

Your top Bertrand Russell video explains why he and so many of the rest of us reject Christianity, and all of the other human-mind created religions, very well. Here it is again.







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06/20/15 1:45 AM

#234629 RE: F6 #234556

Bill Nye: Race is a Human Construct .. Think Tank



by Big Think Editors

5 months ago

Bill Nye the Science Guy .. http://bigthink.com/experts/bill-nye .. returns to Big Think to discuss ..
http://bigthink.com/videos/bill-nye-on-the-evolution-of-dogs .. canine evolution and, by way
of man's best friend, various lessons he learned while writing his new book, Undeniable
.. http://www.amazon.com/Undeniable-Evolution-Creation-Bill-Nye/dp/1250007135 :

[ YouTube inserted, as the embed ]




After joking about interviewing dogs for the new book, Nye begins a dissection of the purebreed myth:

"We obsess about whether our dog is a pug-Jack Russell terrier mix with corgi overtones and an oaky finish. 'An approachable little dog,' whatever. They’re all dogs, okay? And so the idea of a purebred is just a human construct. There’s no such thing – in a sense there’s no such thing as a purebred dog."

This is one of the main lessons Nye hopes readers and viewers take away from his analysis of dogs and evolution. No matter what kinds of dog mate -- pug with a chihuahua, Great Dane with a dachshund, whatever -- the result is still a dog. There is no variance in species. Years of breeding and evolution have resulted in a broad spectrum of dogs that look different from their proto-dog ancestors and certainly different from each other. But underneath it all they're still just dogs.

The same can be said for humans. Race, just like breed, is a human construct:

"If a Papua New Guinean hooks up with a Swedish person all you get is a human. There’s no new thing you’re going to get. You just get a human. Japanese woman jumping the African guy, all you get is a human. They’re all humans. So this is a lesson to be learned. There really is, for humankind there’s really no such thing as race. There’s different tribes but not different races. We’re all one species."

This isn't a groundbreaking idea .. http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/682047?sid=21105561295443&uid=4&uid=2&uid=3739256&uid=3739584 .. in any way; sociologists and political scientists have argued over race for years .. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/evolution/does-race-exist.html . What's notable here though is that Nye is not making his claims from the platform of sociology. Instead, he's analyzing hard scientific evidence from a biological perspective. His argument that race doesn't exist is supported not by conjecture but through evolutionary evidence.

What's your take on Nye's argument? Let us know in the comments below.

http://bigthink.com/think-tank/bill-nye-race-is-a-social-construct

Repeat another video about a coupla inches down in yours exhibiting yet again 'God given' delusion and in it 'God given' paternalistic abuse of women.



Beck and Lapin's gig.





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06/26/15 11:11 AM

#234777 RE: F6 #234556

Supreme Court rules same-sex marriage a constitutional right 5-4
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07/02/15 10:38 PM

#234968 RE: F6 #234556

F6, the deconversions beginning with 2.1 Deconversion: Prayer



'bout the bottom 1/4? of yours are as simply good as Einstein's brilliance in his

Albert Einstein- How I See the World



'criteria that if a theory was really beautiful in it's simplicity' then it would likely fit our beautiful world .. note, for those who
haven't yet enjoyed the originality and simplicity of the deconversions, 2.1 up top streams smack-dab into 2.2 Deconversion: Morality



so they must be all in there, too .. the Einstein video i bumped into yesterday prompted this
post, it was a feeling that a simple 3-way (2.2 afterthought just now as haven't watched it, yet)

Why I Am Not a Christian by Bertrand Russell



of the three+now could be seen as generous and considerate pieces toward the ever more popular Triune God evolutionary antidote.






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07/15/15 7:43 AM

#235603 RE: F6 #234556

Bobby Jindal: I’m running for President of the United States of America


Published on Jun 24, 2015 by BobbyJindal [ http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHprWAjXDn0eQrQdvHk1LMA / http://www.youtube.com/user/bobbyjindal , http://www.youtube.com/user/bobbyjindal/videos ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSDqJexwWok [with comments]


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Jindal All the Way

The Daily Show with Jon Stewart
Aired: 06/25/15

Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal enters the 2016 presidential race with the underwhelming support of his kids. (5:49)

© Copyright 2015 Comedy Partners

http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/2n06t0/jindal-all-the-way [with comment] [full episode at http://thedailyshow.cc.com/full-episodes/ufnvut/june-25--2015---richard-lewis (with comments)]


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Bobby Jindal Campaign Announcement Video: "I'm Going To Do A Bad Job"


Published on Jul 3, 2015 by Funny Or Die [ http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzS3-65Y91JhOxFiM7j6grg / http://www.youtube.com/user/FunnyorDie , http://www.youtube.com/user/FunnyorDie/videos ]

Bobby Jindal announced his presidential campaign in a strange video, featuring GoPro footage camera taken from a camera hidden in a tree as he told his children about his decision to run.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXj24puOZPw [with comments]


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Bobby Jindal 2016 Announcement Video


Published on Jun 25, 2015 by BobbyJindal

Believe in what we can do. Believe in what America can do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGDXnuS-MLk [with comments]


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Bobby Jindal Presidential Campaign Announcement Full Speech (C-SPAN)


Published on Jun 25, 2015 by C-SPAN [ http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCb--64Gl51jIEVE-GLDAVTg / http://www.youtube.com/user/CSPAN , http://www.youtube.com/user/CSPAN/videos ]

Bobby Jindal announced his bid for the Republican presidential nomination. He made the announcement at Pontchartrain Center in Kenner, Louisiana. Watch the complete Bobby Jindal Presidential Campaign Announcement event here: http://www.c-span.org/video/?326723-1/governor-bobby-jindal-rla-presidential-campaign-announcement

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEA9hcuWo-E [with comments]


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Bobby Jindal's Presidential Announcement (short version)


Published on Jun 26, 2015 by Vic Berger [ http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWZ3HFiJkxG1K8C4HVnyBvQ / http://www.youtube.com/user/victheiv , http://www.youtube.com/user/victheiv/videos ]

Bobby Jindal made a big announcement. He is running for President! He talked about a number of important things and the speech was really great, but it was just too long. To save people some time, I shortened the speech down to a reasonable length. Watch this and then go out and do something with all the time I saved you!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mhb-VKXAR8 [with comments]


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Bobby Jindal interviewed by Chuck Todd on NBC's Meet The Press


Published on Jun 28, 2015 by Bob David [ http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWrHMRwyK3SUJDbzDNMMnHw , http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWrHMRwyK3SUJDbzDNMMnHw/videos ]

Chuck Todd interviews Bobby Jindal on NBC's Meet The Press. Predictably, Todd introduces Jindal somewhat unflatteringly and proceeds with somewhat hostile questioning laced with false premises. The coup de grâce? Todd likens opposition to same-sex marriage with opposition to interracial marriage, effectively framing Jindal as a bygone bigot.

Interview aired 6/28/2015.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crHzzwNgtno [with comments] [original video segment and related article at http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/jindal-louisiana-will-comply-same-sex-marriage-ruling-n383381 (with comments)] [original complete show video at http://www.nbc.com/meet-the-press/video/meet-the-press-june-28-2015/2875488 , and transcript at http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meet-press-transcript-june-28-2015-n383401 (with comment)]


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Are Americans Of Faith In Danger? - O'Reilly Talking Points


Published on Jul 1, 2015 by NSTP - Wake The Hell Up America! [ http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6I4fNoqxXIkXyrCXvn2rzw / http://www.youtube.com/user/NorthShoreTP , http://www.youtube.com/user/NorthShoreTP/videos ]

Aired 7/1/2015.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrG_fUqp7d4 [with comments] [also at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2uAGfKZlQQ and, a bit clipped at the start, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_Q6PHTryjw (with comments)] [original "Talking Points"-only video segment at http://video.foxnews.com/v/4333342003001/are-americans-of-faith-in-danger/?#sp=show-clips and, with transcipt, at http://www.foxnews.com/transcript/2015/07/02/bill-oreilly-are-religious-americans-in-danger/ (no comments yet)]


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Bobby Jindal: Fighting For Religious Freedom - O'Reilly


Published on Jul 1, 2015 by NSTP - Wake The Hell Up America!

Aired 7/1/2015.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbGHeMMI9co [with comment] [also, a bit clipped at the start, at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_48N8O_kEA (with comments)] [original video segment at http://video.foxnews.com/v/4333394218001/fighting-for-religious-freedom-/?#sp=show-clips and, with transcipt, at http://www.foxnews.com/transcript/2015/07/02/fighting-for-religious-freedom/ (no comments yet)]


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Hannity: An Hour With Bobby Jindal


Published on Jul 3, 2015 by Chad Barnes [ http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6koE3qTubMgBnQAFZGJukg , http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6koE3qTubMgBnQAFZGJukg/videos ]

Bobby Jindal is latest GOP presidential candidate to get an hour-long interview on Hannity.

Aired July 3, 2015.

FNC 03 07 2015 21 00 01

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znT_MZhpDDg [with comments] [original complete show transcript at http://www.foxnews.com/transcript/2015/07/06/bobby-jindal-opens-up-about-his-2016-presidential-run-on-hannity/ , a partial set of the show's original video segments at http://video.foxnews.com/v/4337262044001/bobby-jindal-opens-up-about-his-presidential-run/?#sp=show-clips , http://video.foxnews.com/v/4337253021001/bobby-jindal-answers-viewers-questions/?#sp=show-clips , and http://video.foxnews.com/v/4337253023001/bobby-jindal-explains-why-americans-should-vote-for-him/?#sp=show-clips ]


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A Special Message To Bobby Jindal From An Indian-American


Published on Jun 27, 2015 by NowThis [ http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCn4sPeUomNGIr26bElVdDYg / http://www.youtube.com/user/nowthismedia , http://www.youtube.com/user/nowthismedia/videos ]

Indian-American Bobby Jindal is running for President, but he doesn't like 'hyphenated Americans.'

Indian-American Versha Sharma, a senior producer at NowThis, has a special message for her fellow Louisianan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-Ez39tVlJc [with comments]


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Bobby Jindal's Sad, Weird 2016 Campaign Logo Released


Published on Jul 4, 2015 by The Young Turks [ http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ / http://www.youtube.com/user/TheYoungTurks , http://www.youtube.com/user/TheYoungTurks/videos ]

"Tanned. Rested. Ready."

That is Indian-American Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal's new 2016 presidential campaign slogan and the "tanned" part is supposed to be a reference to his skin tone.

"The liberal media that developed this week was disgusting: Apparently Bobby isn't brown enough for them," wrote Timmy Teepell, Mr Jindal's campaign manager, in an email to supporters."

Read more here:
http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/tanned-rested-ready-bobby-jindals-2016-us-presidential-campaign-slogan-776486

Cenk Uygur, host of The Young Turks, breaks it down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuxfTPtL8OY [with comments]


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07/26/15 9:29 PM

#236043 RE: F6 #234556

Lordy Lordy. Lord Sewel resigns over video of him 'taking cocaine with sex workers'

Peer quits as deputy speaker and faces police investigation after Sunday newspaper publishes footage it says was filmed in his central London flat


In the video, Lord Sewel, who has been a peer since 1996, is asked whether he
receives expenses. Photograph: Suzanne Hubbard/PA

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jul/26/lord-sewel-resigns-video-cocaine-sex-workers-deputy-speaker
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12/29/15 11:52 PM

#242197 RE: F6 #234556

Franklin Graham Quitting GOP, Beginning Voter Rallies

Mark Barrett, Asheville Citizen Times 11:17 a.m. EST December 29, 2015


(Photo: (Photo: Courtesy Billy Graham Evangelical Association))

The Rev. Franklin Graham says he is quitting the Republican Party as he begins a series of rallies across the country to urge voter support for candidates who hold "biblical values."

The rallies will be in each state next year, beginning with one Jan. 5 on the steps of the state Capitol in Des Moines, Iowa. Most of the rallies with dates announced so far appear to be timed to influence voters ahead of their state's presidential primary, with states holding early primaries or caucuses like New Hampshire and South Carolina also being the sites of some of the earlier rallies.

“God hears the prayers of his people, so I’m calling on people of faith in every state to pray fervently for America and our leaders,” Graham wrote on his Facebook page recently. “I want to challenge Christians across our land to boldly live out and promote biblical principles at home, in public and at the ballot box. The only hope for this country is if the people of God are willing to take a stand for truth and righteousness.”

Graham has given a couple of explanations for leaving the GOP.

He said on his Facebook page Dec. 21 that the spending bill that passed Congress Dec. 18 "is an example of why I have resigned from the Republican Party and declared myself Independent. I have no hope in the Republican Party, the Democratic Party, or Tea Party to do what is best for America."

He criticized the bill because it will not stop Planned Parenthood from receiving federal dollars for contraceptive services and called the bill in general "wasteful."

In a recent interview on Fox News, Graham said he wants to avoid the appearance of holding the rallies to help Republicans.

"I just felt it was best for me to not be aligned with any party but to be an independent if I'm going to stand there and ask people to pray for our country," he said. "I don't want people to think, 'Well, he's just doing this for the Republican Party.' No, I'm not going this for the Republican Party. I'm going this really for our country."

He said there are some good Republican candidates for president and, "I don't have an agenda to lead people out of the Republican Party." Graham says he will not endorse specific candidates.

He has said he is challenging Christians, including pastors, "to pray about running for office where they can have an impact. We need mayors, county commissioners, city council members, school board members who will uphold biblical values."

There's been some speculation about whether Graham's actions will hurt or help the GOP, with at least one commentator wondering if other evangelical pastors and their flocks may now be more likely to stay home on Election Day next year. On the other hand, some Republican presidential candidates are strongly courting evangelical voters and Graham's rallies could energize people more likely to cast ballots for Republican candidates.

The rallies are an initiative of the Charlotte-based Billy Graham Evangelical Association that Franklin Graham heads and collectively are called "Decision America Tour with Franklin Graham." The group started by the famous evangelist whose name it bears has become more identified with a conservative political agenda in recent years as Franklin Graham has taken more of a leadership role.

No date for a North Carolina rally has been announced. Follow the links below for more information.

http://www.wfmynews2.com/story/news/politics/2015/12/29/franklin-graham-quitting-gop-beginning-voter-rallies/78014894/

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Franklin Graham’s anti-gay gambit goes horribly awry
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